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Just as a general comment regarding this situation, it would be nice if regional admin was more flexible in terms of inter-regional communication settings. Something like a simple toggle switch that could be flipped to open/close RMB posting between specific regions, rather than blanket permissions across all embassy regions, would go a long way, in my opinion.

Having been in another region which received a fair amount of spam from one of the GCRs via embassy posting, I consider it a major impediment to on-site relations with those regions. But the only arrow in your quiver is to sever communications between all of your embassies. Which is not ideal, as different regions can have very different cultures, calling for very different moderation settings.

Siornor, Jutsa, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 5 othersUan aa Boa, Sean fiobha, Garbelia, Difinbelk, and Rhye

Ruinenlust wrote:At this point, Donald Trump, Trumpism, and the Republican Party (collectively "DTTRP," you might say) constitute the greatest threat to the United States, in my view... it outranks the much-larger-but-also-more-distant-and-gradual tsunamis of climate change and environmental destruction... On this issue alone, even if everything else were wrong with them, I would still be a categorically Democratic Party voter.

With all due acknowledgment of the depth of your annoyance, get some perspective. We're roughly a decade from a major climate tipping point, and the social media postings of a retired reality show host should not constitute news. Trump's most dangerous effect is this lowering of the bar, which means that good people end up thinking the Democrats winning is important. As Biden's private jet leaves another climate conference that did nothing, the Democrats environmental policy has all the sincerity of a pride flag on a corporate website in June. They represent the interests of people who probably still won't do anything when their Californian micro-vineyards are literally on fire. This party political shenanigans is fun and all, but aren't there other things we should be doing?

Uan aa Boa wrote:With all due acknowledgment of the depth of your annoyance, get some perspective. We're roughly a decade from a major climate tipping point, and the social media postings of a retired reality show host should not constitute news. Trump's most dangerous effect is this lowering of the bar, which means that good people end up thinking the Democrats winning is important. As Biden's private jet leaves another climate conference that did nothing, the Democrats environmental policy has all the sincerity of a pride flag on a corporate website in June. They represent the interests of people who probably still won't do anything when their Californian micro-vineyards are literally on fire. This party political shenanigans is fun and all, but aren't there other things we should be doing?

If Trump were nothing but a retired reality show host, I would agree with you. Would that we could relegate him in history to that pathetic position.

Sadly, he is a former President of the United States, who managed to do what even the Confederacy in the Civil War did not - he managed to get an armed attack to take place inside the United States capital building. He is not just a talking head - he is an extraordinarily influential individual of extreme maliciousness and evil, with literally millions of supporters who fanatically worship him like a cult leader, who have a repeated and demonstrated willingness to use brutal violence to forward his aims. He has just called for the elimination and casting aside of the only safeguard that kept him from succeeding before, and he has armed and angry followers who will take that as marching orders. As much as it makes me sick, I literally watched the January 6th attack on our capital from my living room window. I saw the armored police convoys streaming into the city across the Potomac, had my living area and workplace infested with his insurrectionist supporters, and have armed guards on my streets because of the violence he deliberately brought.

One may not love the Democrats, but it absolutely is critical that they win. They MUST win. The Republican party at this point is not simply the greater of two evils - it is a death machine, and if they are fully in power, they aren't just going to ignore the climate crisis - they are going to do everything they can to accelerate it, because they can turn a profit. Does Biden fly in a private jet? Yes, he's President of the United States. Nearly every head of state does. He is somebody who is famous for having spent the decades of his long political career commuting via mass transit, even when entitled to much more. Does his party represent what the Earth needs? No, but with them in the driver's seat there is time and ability to focus on getting there. With the other side driving, there is not even room to try and save the planet, because the people on the planet will be too busy trying to save themselves from what is raining on them from above.

Siornor, Jutsa, Mount Seymour, Lord Dominator, and 9 othersUan aa Boa, Lura, Heidgaudr, Garbelia, Difinbelk, Furilisca, Ecologist Hegemony, Far away enough, and Rhye

Ruinenlust wrote:
So on Saturday, the orange blob that some have called the president crapped out this turd on his plastic knockoff of a social media site:

"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great 'Founders' did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!" (emphasis mine)

Could you link the original post? This feels like a really, really good thing to have a source on so that I can’t be “is your source ‘trust me bro’?”’d with it.

Verdant Haven wrote:
WashPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/04/trump-constitution-republicans/

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/04/us/politics/trump-constitution-republicans.html

Politico: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/trump-terminate-constitution-00072230

(The original post was on his so-called Truth Social account - a site to which I will not drive traffic for love or money.)

Thanks, but as much as I value not giving Trump's bs traffic, I also want an original citation, so...
https://web.archive.org/web/20221203171848/https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109449803240069864

Siornor, Jutsa, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 2 othersSean fiobha, and Garbelia

Difinbelk wrote:Could you link the original post? This feels like a really, really good thing to have a source on so that I can’t be “is your source ‘trust me bro’?”’d with it.

WashPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/04/trump-constitution-republicans/

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/04/us/politics/trump-constitution-republicans.html

Politico: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/trump-terminate-constitution-00072230

(The original post was on his so-called Truth Social account - a site to which I will not drive traffic for love or money.)

Siornor, Jutsa, Ruinenlust, Lord Dominator, and 2 othersSean fiobha, and Rhye

Trump is a VERY bad loser... but so are most politicians. This whole thing about the suppression of Hunter and Sleepy Joe news stories is equally bad. Both seek to accomplish essentially the same thing just Trump is bold enough to outright say what he wants.

Quite frankly both sides cheat in elections, it just comes down to who cheats "best". Sad truth.

I hope this comment comes across as neutral - I'm not taking sides on this one, just pointing out the obvious.

Siornor, Jutsa, Canaltia, Sean fiobha, and 2 othersDifinbelk, and Fock

Since we are on the topic of news sources i thought i would expose my biases.

Main sources:
Financial times
Reuters
BBC
ground news
The national
Tldr news yt (plus sister channels)
A different bias yt
Caspianreport yt
China uncensored yt
America uncovered yt
Loawhy86 yt
Serpentza yt

Perspective sources:
Many yt channels do not represent my personal beliefs but i do listen to what the other side says.

https://youtube.com/@Ruiseal

Sean fiobha wrote:Since we are on the topic of news sources i thought i would expose my biases.

Main sources:
Financial times
Reuters
BBC
ground news
The national
Tldr news yt (plus sister channels)
A different bias yt
Caspianreport yt
China uncensored yt
America uncovered yt
Loawhy86 yt
Serpentza yt

Perspective sources:
Many yt channels do not represent my personal beliefs but i do listen to what the other side says.

https://youtube.com/@Ruiseal

Here's my main sources:

The Forest RMB
Word of Mouth

Siornor wrote:Here's my main sources:

The Forest RMB
Word of Mouth

Hermit much?

Forest Virginia wrote:Trump is a VERY bad loser... but so are most politicians.

I'm inclined to agree with this. I can't remember the last time someone other than Trump refused to concede an election for years at this point, at least in North America, so I think he's an exceptionally bad loser. But yeah.

Forest Virginia wrote:This whole thing about the suppression of Hunter and Sleepy Joe news stories is equally bad.

At the risk of confirming the suppression, I'm not actually familiar with a scandel directly involving both Hunter and Joe Biden. All I've heard is the Hunter Biden laptop/drugs stuff, which certainly is not a good look. There was also that position Hunter took for the energy company in Ukraine, but I don't think that was a crime, just him exploiting the Biden name for profit. Of course, that doesn't mean Joe Biden isn't involved, but Hunter is a private citizen who holds no elected office, so that link would have to be proven. Otherwise, you could make the case for charging Trump for fraud and perjury due to the actions of the 5 campaign managers and 1 consultant charged by the DOJ, which sets a bad precedent.

If there's something else I'm missing, please inform me, because this stuff does tend to get suppressed. Maybe not intentionally, but the government doesn't exactly advertise it's faults. As far as I'm concerned, every U.S. president in the past few decades has been a war criminal, and I'd be in favor of charging them all under international law, but that's never going to happen.

Forest Virginia wrote:Quite frankly both sides cheat in elections, it just comes down to who cheats "best". Sad truth.

This I'm afraid I can't agree with, as long as cheating is something explicitly not allowed. I'm sure there are instances of cheating along the lines of any political affiliation, but I'm not sure it's in a meaningful amount. I assume you're referring to voter fraud? In which case, there's a microscopic amount of cases of that happening, certainly no where near enough to sway an election. Voter intimidation is a bit harder to gauge, since charges rarely result from them, and there's too many fallbacks for anything beyond systemic corruption to influence vote counting, for which I've seen no evidence.

So individuals on "both sides" (there's a lot of sides, but brevity) probably do cheat, but not in a meaningful capacity, and it'd take some pretty substantial evidence to tie this crime to any political figures or institutions. For the most part, it seems like the electoral system in the U.S. has a lot of integrity, even if it's a bit dumb that gerrymandering and the electoral college and that stuff can lead to someone winning without a majority of the citizen's vote. That's a crime to the ideals of democracy, but I'm afraid that's not on the books.

Siornor wrote:Here's my main sources:

The Forest RMB
Word of Mouth

Please tell me you're not taking my rambling at face value. Some uni student from Canada is not a reliable source.

But yeah, news media is a partisan mess. As a rule of thumb, I don't care about culture war stuff, I try to read legislation before reading interpretations of it, and if an event happens, it's good to isolate facts of the matter and keep that in mind while reading up on it. I don't really have particular sources, more so than I just hear about something and read whatever sources talk about it when I search for more information. Hence why I have some pretty massive blindspots in my knowledge.

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Siornor, Lord Dominator, Difinbelk, Far away enough, and 1 otherRhye

Why the flying pigs would somebody destroy an embassy with one of the Pacifics? What kind of nonsense is this?

Fock wrote:Why the flying pigs would somebody destroy an embassy with one of the Pacifics? What kind of nonsense is this?

Because they keep spamming the RMB. That's why.

Siornor, Lord Dominator, McClandia Doge 2, Garbelia, and 5 othersDifinbelk, Far away enough, Kuraiva, Down Scoblic, and Rhye

Fock wrote:Why the flying pigs would somebody destroy an embassy with one of the Pacifics? What kind of nonsense is this?


There's explanation link on the poll

Canaltia wrote: ... the electoral college and that stuff can lead to someone winning without a majority of the citizen's vote. That's a crime to the ideals of democracy, but I'm afraid that's not on the books.

The US has never been a true democracy... so, while I understand the frustration at times, it is unfair to compare the Electoral College to a democratic system.

I'm actually highly in favor of the Electoral College as it helps prevent tyranny of the majority as this is an inherent weakness of a "majority rules" democracy system. I have always thought the Founding Fathers of the US put a lot of thought into this given most of the original 13 states were formed by those fleeing oppression.

Forest Virginia wrote:The US has never been a true democracy... so, while I understand the frustration at times, it is unfair to compare the Electoral College to a democratic system.

I'm actually highly in favor of the Electoral College as it helps prevent tyranny of the majority as this is an inherent weakness of a "majority rules" democracy system. I have always thought the Founding Fathers of the US put a lot of thought into this given most of the original 13 states were formed by those fleeing oppression.

The EC prevents tyranny by majority by creating a tyranny by minority.

The Founding Fathers aren't above reproach; while they were generally ahead of the curve on a lot of things, many of their ideas don't hold up 250 years later, largely because society and technology have evolved far past anything they could have conceived of. So instead of saying "Well, the Founding Fathers said so, so it must be good and true," we should instead be investigating and evaluating everything they did and deciding whether it's time to move on.

It's December so it's time to make a new term government for the coming year. I decided not to track the elections in separate dispatch this time and jump directly to the results: the new key figures of the government of The Rriknor of Einswenn, the new parliament division, and ultimately the new main factbook, out from the scratch for further development and new sections to add hopefully. I still plan on adding more maps, reshaping the diplomacy factbook, adding more natural sites and wonders, and doing some more minor shenanigans with my lore. Hopefully next year will be more productive in that regard.

So, here we go:


For your brief entertainment.

Siornor, Jutsa, Lord Dominator, Sean fiobha, and 2 othersDifinbelk, and Ecologist Hegemony

Heidgaudr wrote:we should instead be investigating and evaluating everything they did and deciding whether it's time to move on.

That's fair, and goodness knows I don't agree with everything in it myself (though most of it I do... and it'd be nice if it was honestly followed a bit more closely at times but I digress [OK state sovereignty dismissal {I know it's "bad" but it can just as likely be "good" if the fed goes haywire which it is and if it's in there it should be followed more closely} and the whole filibuster rule which literally goes against the constitution in favor of rule by minority but enough whining]), but realistically that's probably not going to happen.

Either you try to get an amendment passed - which are notoriously difficult and, given the time period we're living in right now where few can agree on much of anything, probably impossible - or you scrap the constitution and redraw it - something that would most likely be significantly worse and is why we started this whole discussion in the first place.

Simply put, there is no serious chance of any constitutional change like the EC (or even the 2nd amendment), much less one with have only benevolent results, short of a miracle among miracles. That's not to say we can't complain about it, or talk about it in the off chance the amendment strategy does become a real possibility one day or the US has no choice but to rebuild its constitution due to something going horribly wrong; it's just that a "good" change (which obviously many would not agree on and would likewise also complain about) is unlikely to happen any time soon and anything more would be exceptionally dangerous.

Furthermore, I don't think that just because we're more "technologically advanced" that the fundamental principles of governing change that much. And honestly, with how many crises we're facing, I'm not convinced technological advancement is going to matter much at all unless we develop something that figures out how to better run the world and fix 98% of our problems without infringing on any of our collective values (which also sounds fairly impossible and probably is).

But that's just my (insert overused somethings here).

Forest Virginia wrote:The US has never been a true democracy... so, while I understand the frustration at times, it is unfair to compare the Electoral College to a democratic system.

I'm actually highly in favor of the Electoral College as it helps prevent tyranny of the majority as this is an inherent weakness of a "majority rules" democracy system. I have always thought the Founding Fathers of the US put a lot of thought into this given most of the original 13 states were formed by those fleeing oppression.

I've never really gotten the whole "America isn't a democracy because Electoral College" takes, especially given how many parliamentary democracies that elect leaders entirely without input from the people exist, oftentimes with very interesting results (see the UK's recent shenanigans for an example). The electoral college is just a special congress elected for the sole purpose of picking a president, rather than one who picks a leader in addition to regular governing. Additionally, the president can't do much beyond what congress explicitly approves, and recent supreme court decisions have made the definition of "explicitly approve" a bit narrower. Congress is entirely chosen by the people and is the most powerful branch of the government.

Heidgaudr wrote:The EC prevents tyranny by majority by creating a tyranny by minority.

The Founding Fathers aren't above reproach; while they were generally ahead of the curve on a lot of things, many of their ideas don't hold up 250 years later, largely because society and technology have evolved far past anything they could have conceived of. So instead of saying "Well, the Founding Fathers said so, so it must be good and true," we should instead be investigating and evaluating everything they did and deciding whether it's time to move on.

I'm going to push back against us, this is a solution in search of a problem. Change for the sake of change is not good. You need to start with a specific problem and then work backward to find a solution for it. If the end result is changing the constitution then, after you make an effort to prevent unintended negative consequences, go for it. The laws the founding fathers made have stayed the way they are for a reason: they are absolutely critical to the functioning of the government and the freedom of society. Tampering with them isn't something that should be done lightly, and definitely shouldn't be done "because they're old".

Jutsa wrote:

Simply put, there is no serious chance of any constitutional change like the EC

Fun fact, the electoral college is flexible enough that it can trivially emulate any other method of choosing the president, if enough states agree, and in fact, there is an attempt at ensuring a national popular vote for the president which intends to do just that. Look up the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for details.

In other news, 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis was just argued before the supreme court. The issue at hand is "Whether applying a public-accommodation law to compel an artist to speak or stay silent violates the free speech clause of the First Amendment." For a bit of background, a graphic designer in Colorado wanted to expand her business to include designing wedding sites. Of course, that website would count as speech, so the graphic designer, Lorie Smith, wishes to disclude gay weddings because supporting gay marriage is against her religious beliefs. Unlike the national anti-discrimination laws, Colorado's ADA is strong enough to compel Smith to make the website anyway (the federal ones aren't strong to compel speech). Justice Sotomayer pointed out that a ruling for Smith would be the first time the supreme court had ruled that "commercial businesses could refuse to serve a customer based on race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation," but Chief Justice Roberts pointed out that the court had never allowed the government to compel speech that was contrary to the speaker's belief. Smith appears likely to win, although a lot can happen between now and the ruling becomes official.

Regardless of what happens, the ruling probably won't matter much, especially outside of Colorado. Additionally, a similar case appeared once before when a Colorado baker refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. However, that case wound up with the court ruling in favor of the baker while punting the main question into the future, because the prosecution decided attacking the baker's religion directly during trial was a good idea.

further reading: https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/12/conservative-justices-seem-poised-to-side-with-web-designer-who-opposes-same-sex-marriage/

Window Land wrote:Additionally, a similar case appeared once before when a Colorado baker refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. However, that case wound up with the court ruling in favor of the baker while punting the main question into the future, because the prosecution decided attacking the baker's religion directly during trial was a good idea.

That Colarado case was discussed by the UK supreme court in a similar cake-based controversy in Northern Ireland where a baker had declined to make a cake with the words "support gay marriage" on it. It wasn't a request for a wedding cake because at that time same sex marriage wasn't possible in Northern Ireland. The UK court ruled that this wasn't discrimination because the baker would have made a cake with different words on it for the gay customer, and would not have made a cake with those words if asked to do so by a straight customer. Any discrimination was against the words and not the customer, with words having no legal protection.

That seems pretty straightforward. The Colarado case is more complicated because the request for a wedding cake was refused without a design being considered - it was simply the case that the baker would make a wedding cake for a straight couple but not for a gay couple. I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like it would be a violation of European human rights law which makes it clear that a service can't be withheld on the basis that the customer has a protected characteristic. It sounds as if dealing with the same issue using the First Amendment and Colarado laws on freedom of religion is quite a bit more complicated.

On your point about needing a good reason to go tampering with the laws left by the founding fathers, isn't it the case that tampering is happening all the time? Aside from the fact that the constitution has 26 amendments, the authors of the First Amendment would have had no idea what a website is and in all probability never considered the notion of same sex marriage. It's not as if cases are actually settled by deciding how they would have viewed a roughly analogous situation involving a pamphlet, newspaper or something they would have understood. I was genuinely surprised when I learned that the First Amendment is a single sentence and that the rest of it is precedent and case law that's built up over time. Surely the role of the original writers is pretty minimal by now. US courts might not be handling laws that are rewritten from scratch every few decades like their European counterparts, but I suspect the key provisions are often equally recent.

Similarly I'm a little confused by the Second Amendment, because on the whole people who cite it when buying weapons don't go on to form a well regulated militia, and the modern US in not organised in such a way that a militia is necessary to its security. The Amendment seems so clearly a product of its now irrelevant historical context.

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Uan aa Boa wrote:

That seems pretty straightforward. The Colarado case is more complicated because the request for a wedding cake was refused without a design being considered - it was simply the case that the baker would make a wedding cake for a straight couple but not for a gay couple. I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like it would be a violation of European human rights law which makes it clear that a service can't be withheld on the basis that the customer has a protected characteristic. It sounds as if dealing with the same issue using the First Amendment and Colarado laws on freedom of religion is quite a bit more complicated.

I think the court made the wrong call on that case with the wedding cake, and it's just an example of how Christians in positions of authority in the US have been abusing their power.

Uan aa Boa wrote:Similarly I'm a little confused by the Second Amendment, because on the whole people who cite it when buying weapons don't go on to form a well regulated militia, and the modern US in not organised in such a way that a militia is necessary to its security. The Amendment seems so clearly a product of its now irrelevant historical context.

I think the right to bear arms is a legitimate right, but the wording of the 2nd amendment is incredibly awkward, and yes, a product of its time.

The fact that we now have automatic weapons, nuclear missiles, tanks, etc. makes it impractical to have an unlimited right to bear arms. Constitutional rights can be restricted when there's a clear and present danger to public safety, and that is why the 2nd amendment does not give you the right to build your own nuclear arsenal on a random farm in Kansas.

My biggest issue with the pro-gun crowd is that they refuse to engage in any productive conversation about balancing 2nd amendment rights with public safety. They say, "It's not a gun issue; it's a mental health issue!" but then there is no follow-through to address mental health. There are lots of things we could try to reduce gun-related deaths while still having private gun ownership, but it requires people to work together in good faith on issues of mental health, social health, and political radicalization. It is really important to include the social and political piece, not just "mental health," because not all shooters have a diagnosable mental illness. Being a white supremacist asshat is not in the DSM, but it's still a risk factor for gun violence.

Nazi Flower Power wrote:I think the court made the wrong call on that case with the wedding cake, and it's just an example of how Christians in positions of authority in the US have been abusing their power.

No, the court really didn't. The case was thrown out because of prosecutorial misconduct after the Colorado Civil Rights organization decided to compare the baker's religious beliefs to those supporting slavery or the holocaust. That is, to quote Justice Kennedy, "inappropriate for a Commission charged with the solemn responsibility of fair and neutral enforcement of Colorado’s anti-discrimination law," and an unconstitutional violation of the baker's right to free exercise of religion.

If it makes you feel any better, the baker's stuck in court again after doing something very similar to what got him in trouble the first time, and looking at the facts of the case I don't think the supreme court's gonna save him this time.

Uan aa Boa wrote:That Colarado case was discussed by the UK supreme court in a similar cake-based controversy in Northern Ireland where a baker had declined to make a cake with the words "support gay marriage" on it. It wasn't a request for a wedding cake because at that time same sex marriage wasn't possible in Northern Ireland. The UK court ruled that this wasn't discrimination because the baker would have made a cake with different words on it for the gay customer, and would not have made a cake with those words if asked to do so by a straight customer. Any discrimination was against the words and not the customer, with words having no legal protection.

That seems pretty straightforward. The Colarado case is more complicated because the request for a wedding cake was refused without a design being considered - it was simply the case that the baker would make a wedding cake for a straight couple but not for a gay couple. I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like it would be a violation of European human rights law which makes it clear that a service can't be withheld on the basis that the customer has a protected characteristic. It sounds as if dealing with the same issue using the First Amendment and Colarado laws on freedom of religion is quite a bit more complicated.


To put it simply, some variation of that interpretation of the law is probably what will win. The issue here isn't how inherently complicated things are, but rather that it's a novel area of constitutional law. The issue is a pretty trivial violation of Colorado law, but the main thing is whether or not that law is constitutional. As for freedom of religion, that really shouldn't have been an issue at all, see above for details.

Uan aa Boa wrote:

On your point about needing a good reason to go tampering with the laws left by the founding fathers, isn't it the case that tampering is happening all the time? Aside from the fact that the constitution has 26 amendments, the authors of the First Amendment would have had no idea what a website is and in all probability never considered the notion of same sex marriage. It's not as if cases are actually settled by deciding how they would have viewed a roughly analogous situation involving a pamphlet, newspaper or something they would have understood. I was genuinely surprised when I learned that the First Amendment is a single sentence and that the rest of it is precedent and case law that's built up over time. Surely the role of the original writers is pretty minimal by now. US courts might not be handling laws that are rewritten from scratch every few decades like their European counterparts, but I suspect the key provisions are often equally recent.

Well, laws being ambiguous or in conflict with each other is a good reason to modify them. The first amendment doesn't need to worry about websites or pamphlets or any of that because of how it's written. By only saying that some abstract concept ("speech") can't be abridged they can just let the courts sort out what it actually means. The legislature can just let the other two branches sort out what it actually means, and manually tweak things if the wrong conclusion is jumped to. The founders don't have to worry about websites, because the law is written generally enough to apply to them anyway, and the courts are smart enough to figure that out. Also, the burden on the courts in terms of revisiting precedent is rarely an issue. Large shifts in precedent, either in the form of supreme court rulings or a legislature changing the rules happen all the time.

Uan aa Boa wrote:

Similarly I'm a little confused by the Second Amendment, because on the whole people who cite it when buying weapons don't go on to form a well regulated militia, and the modern US in not organised in such a way that a militia is necessary to its security. The Amendment seems so clearly a product of its now irrelevant historical context.

If it makes more sense, "well-regulated" should be read something like "well-prepared" or "well-organized", and "militia" should be read as "All adult white male US citizens" (stricken out sections have been repealed by the 14th amendment). Additionally, over the past couple of decades, both the public and the courts have shifted their understanding of the amendment as preserving the individual right to bear arms. That, along with a few other factors has created a flat-out stupid situation here in the US. Existing gun control is largely ineffective; most proposed gun control measures focus on the wrong things, are likely unconstitutional, unpopular enough to be hard to pass, and likely to be ineffective should they ever pass; and the changes needed to avoid the issue entirely aren't fairing much better.

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