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What does that mean?
It only spawns a entire bloodline of defects if that person and there decendants continue to marry amongst each other for generations. Genetic defects arising from incest are oftentimes recessive genes, so if they marry someone outside the bloodline the negative effects should go away in a single generation. As long as your family is not systematically only marrying cousin's then it really dosent matter if you do have cousins that occasionally hook up.
Take my nice for example, my brother fell in love and married a woman that we discovered shared a common ancestor with us, after my nice had already been born. Now this shared ancestor lived a long time ago, he was literally a confederate soldier who died in the 1860s. And our family trees stayed completly separate until the birth of my nice. She doesn't have any severe problems tho. Her eyesight is bad, but that is due to a medication that her mother took while pregnant with her. They even won a class action lawsuit about it so its proven to not be due to inbreeding.
In fact she is physically fit compared to her poor half brother. As far as I know his family tree has no shared ancestors. However hes sick, bad sick. The doctors dont know what's wrong with him. His poor mother has tried everything she can do to help him, she flown him to specialist doctors in Minnesota several times because the doctors here openly admitted they have no idea what is wrong with him. And the doctors in Minniosta dont really know what's wrong either, one of them said he thinks he has a diagnosis but if that doctor is right then he is the secound person worldwide to ever be diagnosed with this disease. Hes always pale whenever I meet him and he has the energy of a 70 year old man, despite the fact that hes only 19 years old. If things keep up they way they're it will be a miracle if that boy lives to see his 30th birthday. It just goes to show that no matter who your parents are, life just deals some people a bad hand.
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Good morning, my fellow Lazarenes! It's been a long time, it's good to be back. I think.
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Alabama! A lovely state, as long as a visitor does not get sucked into that Auburn-Alabama football foolishness. As for the stereotype of inbred Southerners, actually, we do know a gentleman from Alabama who married his first-cousin. They never had children, but that was not from lack of effort. Is that common? You may know better than we do.
Exactly! Sexual attraction is very powerful.
We were not around for those good old days. But we did see what nasty raiders did to SECFanatics, and then tried to do to The Embassy.
Sweetie, DNA has shown that humans messed around with the Denisovans and the Neanderthals. Cain’s wife might have been one of them.
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The issue here is that the example given is purely anecdotal, it doesn't represent the whole situation. Evidence is shown that an average child born of an under 35 mother has about a 3% chance of having any birth defect. When between cousins this doubles. If over 35, this goes from 3% to 4% meaning, that between cousins it is an 8% chance of a birth defect compared to a normal couple.
Now, I understand your argument, of love is love, and as long as it doesn't effect anyone else it doesn't matter. Only issue is, it does affect someone else. It affects the child. Even if it doesn't pass on to the grand children, it still messes with that child's entire life. When you double the chances of someone's life being generally messed up, or even completely destroyed, it's not something one should be ok with, much less encourage.
1. Sweetie? Only special people call me that. So Go get your knee pads, We have need of you later.
2. Might have been one of them ??? .. .Sure and humans MIGHT have been formed when the great Cosmic Whale Clarence farted into the Oceans of Honey surrounding the Land of Hopeless Antelopes with Itchy Anuses! MIGHT!!!
3. BTW: Denisovans and Neanderthals are human. Your sentence is the equivalent of saying the Welsh interbred with the Irish and the Scots. True but irrelevant.
4. Nothing personal btw, keep seeking and you will either find the the truth or become extremely bored and start listening to the drivel known as reggae.
Ciao,
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Neanderthals weren't humans, you idiot. Homo Neanderthalensis is not Homo Sapien, same genus, but entirely different species
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Imperialer Reichspalast, Leestcheck, capital of the Imperium
Imperator Konsul Leo I. was sitting at his gargantuan beechwood desk, hand-signing congratulatory letters to elderly citizens who turned 115 years old. His predecessor used to sign letters to everyone who turned 100 years, but due to the increase in life-expectancy in the Imperium, with the average being 96,06 years, the sheer number of citizens who turned 100 had become so large that the number was raised to 115 and 100 year olds were only sent a letter from the local Präfekt of their community, to reduce Leo's workload.
Suddenly, a siren sounded that Leo could not remember ever having heard before. A member of the Imperial Guard, Commander Frank Sevethal, barged into his office without knocking, a very uncommon behaviour, and shouted: "Mein Imperator! Wir werden angegriffen! We must get you to safety immediately!" Just as he said that, the HoloTV screen in Leo's office turned itself on and displayed in bright red colours: "NUCLEAR THREAT IMMINENT", accompanied by a robotic female voice.
Leo rushed to the huge panoramic window in his office and looked outside. The 20 MW "Lichtbringer" laser cannons of the Imperium's Stahlkuppel automatic air-and-space defense system were lighting up the sky, soon joined in by the smaller and shorter ranged 5 MW "Illuminator" class weapons. The latter meant that whatever they were shooting at was less than 15 km away, the maximum range of the lasers. Suddenly, an extremely bright flash of light illuminated everything. The entire office turned white, then, with an earth-shattering kaboom, faded to darkness.
Leo jolted awake in his bed, sweating. He looked around. His bedroom looked orderly as usual. He could hear the birds outside, in the palace garden, singing their early-morning songs. The Imperator pulled the curtains apart and looked at his capital city, mostly still asleep at 5 am in the morning. Everything looked peaceful and calm, the whole city in the blueish tint of the sky before sunrise, with many lights turned off in-line with Leonism's program to reduce light pollution.
Leo wondered what had caused his Albtraum, his bad dream. Was it the plan to intervene in the 
Cossack Peoples Civil War? A bad omen perhaps? Not being in the least bit superstituous, the emperor brushed these thoughts aside, but when he got back in his bed, he wouldn't find sleep again. His thoughts racing and his mind restless.
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From what I can tell it's something that used to be common but has become more rare over the years. You see the south has always attracted less immigrants and internal migrants than most other regions of the united states, in fact for a long time we exported more people than we took in. Theres a myriad of reasons for that, in the antebellum period slavery and our lack of industry pretty much eliminated most of the lower class jobs available. So newly arrived immigrants went to the north where they could find work. Then after the war was over slavery was gone, but so was most of the regions wealth. The people already here took up all the remaining jobs and were quite hostile to outsiders trying to move in. Then a few decades later the depression hit and screwed up economic prospects nationwide, and after that once we had gotten back on our feet we still had jim crow and segregation, which forced our black population into whatever low paying job they could find, which made it almost as hard for a newly arrived immigrant to find a job as it was during the antebellum period. So immigration and internal migration both only really picked up after the end of segregation and the collapse of the rust belt, which we have slowly been replacing.
The result of that is that white southerners are for the most part descended from old pre revolution settlers. If you look at a map of most reported ethnicity in america (ex German,french,spanish, etc) the southeast is the only area that is still majority British american. Now if you remember the British largely stopped coming to America after the revolution, they had there own settler colonies after all. So what that means is that we are still mostly descended from the British settlers that lived here before the revolutionary war, and that we have been marrying among each other for the last 200 years. There was not a overwhelming abundance of pre revolutionary colonists, so some inbreeding became inevitable. Especially when you consider that at the time there was no stigma behind it at all, and that people did not usually travel very far so they had to marry whoever lived close enough to them.
Nowadays the south is changing somewhat. We have more immigrants and internal migrants moving in than we ever have before, and interracial relationships are no longer forbidden on Paine of death like they were in our grandfathers time. And some people have become self conscious about the inbred southerner stereotype. So its becoming more and more rare, but due to our history we still tend to be more tolerant of cousin marriages than most other areas of the united states. But close family relationships, such as siblings or parents, have always been taboo no matter what time period.
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Encourage? Probably not. Be ok with? Yea why not. I mean jr probably still wont get a birth defect, it's a 8 out of 100 chance after all, and that's if hes born to a mother over 35. Even if he does theres no guarantee itll be some life changing disability. He could just have webbed toes or something. Plus there plenty of other things that cause birth defects. Like smoking and drinking while pregnant, or certain medications. Which also shouldn't be encouraged, but people do it.
There is a difference between the percentage odds something could happen and the rate of frequency in which it actually happens. The difference lies in throughput, and in throughput, the offspring of closely genetically linked relatives are nearly guaranteed to have at least a light learning disability if not more pronounced defects otherwise. As love is love, kissing cousins who seek life-long romance with each other should get sterilized to avoid creating such offspring and then adopt if they want kids. In that way, they avoid creating a burden for the state and then relieve the state further by adopting. There would be cultural ramifications, but that's for the families (family? 😂) of the spouses to sort out. A little education and some scientific advancement would do a lot to help kissing cousins.
Good god m8! That's some Nazisque bullshit right there. The state should have no say in who can and cannot breed.
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How nazi-esque something is should be determined by the integrity rating of the speaker. Go check ours and get back to us. The nazis were studying cloning. Should we avoid scientific advancement there because we're afraid of being them? We should instead endeavor to maintain high ethics in these scientific pursuits and ensure that we are not suppressing the people unduly altogether. You seem okay with simply saying that cousins shouldn't be allowed to marry but have no sense of irony about that limitation in freedom even though the marital prohibition does nothing to actually stop inbreeding. Why is it okay to withhold one freedom but not the other? No... We have chosen instead to let them get married and have a family instead of regulating their love. That's not a choice nazis make. We considered why people who are too closely genetically linked are prohibited from marrying and then addressed that issue without suppressing their love. If you don't like our solution to the inbred child issue, find one of your own, but take your nazi panic elsewhere. LoL It's remarkably counterproductive.
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