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Inasaki wrote:

Ngl I like the new law I passed, a 1 hour no phone talk. I know it's a bit controversial but I like the idea of having at least 1 hour to chat with those around you and get to know them. Everyone's on tech now adays so having some time to make potential new friends and such sounds like a nice addition, at least to me I suppose.

I think it has good intentions, but it overlooks something very important about people. We all communicate differently, and approach relationships differently. Some people have extreme difficulty making irl friends and can only do it online. Other people might meet irl but only bond over texts.

Also, for some people this hour would be spent with them forced to spend time with an abusive family (not saying all families are abusive) and away from the only friends they've been able to make, who they talk to online or through text. Some other people are socially anxious or use their phone as a comfort item when in new situations. This hour would be torture for them. I think sometimes wrong decisions are made for the right reasons, and this irl would be one of those.

That being said I did implement it in Sylh Alanor because it's a fantasy nation and none of these problems exist. It's really interesting considering how some NS laws would transfer to irl though.

Allokyus wrote:

President of Allokyus here. I have a suggestion: We should create a scientific team that will board the prototype star frigate to run experiments into deep space, plant space buoys and chart the outer solar system. We could send an automated drone equipped with a tungstenium drill to Jupiter's moon Titan or use the ship to learn more about transneptunian objects! We could divide the production of the ship between our nations industrial capabilities. What do y'all think?

Anne-Marie Juliette supports the idea. To the stars and beyond!

Sylh Alanor wrote:

I think it has good intentions, but it overlooks something very important about people. We all communicate differently, and approach relationships differently. Some people have extreme difficulty making irl friends and can only do it online. Other people might meet irl but only bond over texts.

Also, for some people this hour would be spent with them forced to spend time with an abusive family (not saying all families are abusive) and away from the only friends they've been able to make, who they talk to online or through text. Some other people are socially anxious or use their phone as a comfort item when in new situations. This hour would be torture for them. I think sometimes wrong decisions are made for the right reasons, and this irl would be one of those.

That being said I did implement it in Sylh Alanor because it's a fantasy nation and none of these problems exist. It's really interesting considering how some NS laws would transfer to irl though.

You make valid points, didn't really consider any of that stuff. ;w;

無政府資本主義は恐ろしく見える。

Anarchy capital seems contradictory. And seems to make no sense in any logic stance.

What do other people think of anarchy capital? Besides presumably it being contradictory.

Personally I find such an idea dreadful.

Apologies for these "serious" questions. I just like hearing what others think of beliefs.

Kariforunia wrote:

無政府資本主義は恐ろしく見える。

Anarchy capital seems contradictory. And seems to make no sense in any logic stance.

What do other people think of anarchy capital? Besides presumably it being contradictory.

Personally I find such an idea dreadful.

Apologies for these "serious" questions. I just like hearing what others think of beliefs.

What’s anarchy capital? Unless you mean like anarcho capitalism and I’m just being dumb

Just a reminder for everyone participating in the World Assembly Development Programme endotarting event, I wanted to give a reminder that the cutoff is in two days! To commemorate this event, I have updated the list in my dispatch to be up to date as of the moment I'm posting this message. Click through the nations and make sure you've endorsed everyone to qualify for a card ^-^

Refugia World Assembly Development Program!

by The Socialist Solarpunk Society of Sylh Alanor

The World Assembly Development Programme of Refugia

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Last Event's Winners

Sueloc	Chacapoya
Ideotopia	Ellamaa
Floofybit	Golden Gateway

An’eth’ara Refugia!

Do you remember the last time we met here? I wrote the last WADP dispatch on March 10th, and joked that Season 3 of cards would never come out. I was actually joking at the time, I really did think they’d be released as the April Fool’s Day event the site usually runs. But it turns out I forgot about my ever-increasing stranglehold on the dark powers, and my strength was simply too great. I can no longer make jokes, because the terror I inflict can never be overcome. I am crawling around inside of the CSS. Look! That button is now purple!

I didn’t get a lot done in my capacity as Councillor of Culture during the month of April, and I’m very sorry about that. But we’re here now to pick things up where we left off, and do yet another World Assembly Development Programme series of drawings, based off of endorsements. To make up for not having much going on last month, we’re going to open up the vault we set up for our regional card events and give away some rare and/or high value cards. This is to thank you all for keeping up the endorsements and keeping us over 60 (currently 64) votes in the World Assembly for almost a month. That’s amazing!

So let’s get into what we’re giving away. For the most part, it’s going to be Season 1 cards (though there are a few high-value Season 2 cards thrown in for variety). Also, as the region continues to grow, so too have we continued growing the number of cards we’re giving away! This time, we’ve got a whopping seven cards to give away in our lottery:

• Uelvan, a Season 1 legendary valued at 45.5 bank.
• A baddon, an S1 legendary valued at 46.5 bank.
• Ransium, a game mod from our embassy region Forest. The S2 legendary is valued at 74 bank.
• Bothia, a very rare S1 Legendary valued at 180 bank.
• Montagna, a former issues author and rare S1 Legendary valued at 202 bank.
• Reploid Productions, a long-standing site moderator and four time issue author, valued at 243 bank.
• Abacathea, a highly valued S2 Legendary card, valued at 245 bank.

To qualify for this lottery, endorse the delegate by Monday May 24, 2021!
If you win a card, you will be removed from the list for future drawings within the same event. The delegate cannot participate for obvious reasons.

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Endotarting Competition!

What the heck does that mean?

Endotarting is when you, as a WA nation, go around to every other WA nation in the region and endorse them. This is great for other people's nations because it increases their endorsement census stat and gives them a warm fuzzy feeling. It's also great because every endorsement on a nation means that they gain +1 influence points twice a day, and can collectively build that census stat as well. No one else can get native Refugia influence, that magical stuff exists only here.

Strategically, having influence in the region is a great boon for us all. Refugia is fantastic and wonderful, and I want it to last for ages. However, if something were to happen to the founder, the delegate seat would gain executive power. If that happens, dark forces from the great beyond could target Refugia and steal our kneecaps! The fact is, though, that if a bad actor gains control of the delegacy, they'll want to start banning nations, and the only thing that will protect us is a fortress of regional influence on all of our accounts. Whatever influence you have will be required for an invader to ban you. If they can't afford it, you're safe. So when we all have a ton of endorsements on our nations, we slowly get stronger and collectively build this safety net.

Refugia currently boasts having the 17th most endorsements in the world, and everyone's endorsement of everyone else contributes to this. So I'm going to get the ball rolling by providing this list of Refugia WA nations that can be endorsed. And everyone should try to endorse everyone else on this list, and check the regional census page periodically to see if you can find anyone new to endorse.

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Endorsable Nations
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Sylh Alanor	Araine	Narwhal	Melenavenia	Laisou	Imbault	Typica
Elenaraghaenaris	Liphia	Junitaki-cho	Cadenzana	Tovenia	Chacapoya	Tre bia land
Golden gateway	Floofybit	Bapaving	Parapollacis	Indimu	Sueloc	Koayo
Michelland	New filippe	Vystrania	Eroias	Kariforunia	Inaros OPA	Nottinghaven
Lower French Gregballs	Wankdeed	Nekhuser-Ra	Kallictora	Charcuterie	Turtle island coalition	Ideotopia
Rolliland	Fracoda	Whorth	Glentara	Denimz	Skanatavria	Gamelan
Nova egaleco	Calexic	Vikoland	Lunerbehrgm	Medecion	Hollsedan	Valdonland
Ellamaa	Lethodus	Ekmek pain	Dyllonia	Nivla	Nether budgerigar	Ciumbuleuit-bandung
Chill and cool vibes	Ezopi	The Star Enpire	Batskovey	Inasaki	Densweway	Lethedral
Sortani	Lunarana	Coninglon	Galluping chestnut	Giant Redwoods	Duolian	Libertatem existente
Fruitstrike	Ekajyotivolke	Kazumasen	Chatula

The top twenty-one people who have given out the most endorsements by Monday May 31, 2021 will receive a Season 2 S2 Tzo. Remember, there are no limits to how many endorsements you give, so you can get this card if the RNG doesn’t favour you for the above drawings!

Thanks so much to Refuge Isle for the amazing graphics presented in this dispatch!

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The problem with that is that private ownership of property requires a government, or at least a community consensus, in order to protect it. Otherwise, what is stopping the vast unwashed masses from taking your property? To paraphrase the famous anarchist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, "private ownership of land is a theft from the commons."

Pantala and pyrrhia wrote:

Well that’s the thing with anarcho capitalism, there can still be corporations that you pay to protect your stuff.
That just leads into a root problem with all anarchism as a whole though, since people will inherently organize into something that’s not anarchy in order to protect themselves and their property.

That seems to imply any anarchy is a temporary transformational period. And anarchists should know that, but may somehow believe otherwise.

Pantala and pyrrhia wrote:

Well that’s the thing with anarcho capitalism, there can still be corporations that you pay to protect your stuff.
That just leads into a root problem with all anarchism as a whole though, since people will inherently organize into something that’s not anarchy in order to protect themselves and their property.

See, this is where I run into some of my issues with anarchism and (american)libertarianism. Whenever I have spoken with anarchists about protection of the marginalized or prevention of crime, the typical two answers I seem to get are that either under anarchism people will be taken care of enough that crime will disappear, which I can understand parts of but I personally believe that there are some crimes not born of situation, or that people will be dissuaded from harming you by threat of harm to themselves, the concept of the NAP. I personally take umbrage with this stance as the threat of violence does not make one less likely to act against another, but rather to act first, creating an environment of suspicion. I also loath the idea that the only protection that a person would theoretically receive would be the threat of force against their attacker. As a pacifist, I would rather not have to implicitly threaten others to ensure my own safety.

The Star Enpire wrote:

But aren't you implicitly using force when you call the cops? How are you suppose to stop crime nonviolently without avoiding the state?

I don't call the cops, tbh.
And in a perfect society, whatever emergency services that would exist would be ones that receive extensive training and are publicly accountable, rather than a threat of personal violence.
Also, I want a state tbf.

The Star Enpire wrote:

So why do you need the government to provide these services? What distinguishes a state from any other entity is that they have a monopoly of force. As an anarchist would put it, the state is inherently violent and coercive.

I guess therein lies the fundamental disagreement, I personally believe the state should exist to serve the people. As well as the fact that if the state uses force, that use of force should be accountable to the people of the state.

The Star Enpire wrote:

But aren't you implicitly using force when you call the cops? How are you suppose to stop crime nonviolently without avoiding the state?

But also, how would you stop crime nonviolently in an anarchist society? As well as the fact that there exist other emergency responses beyond just police, such as crisis response teams, that would be able to deal with many of the same issues that police are used for today.

So I didn't take a snapshot for endorsements at the beginning of update this morning, so I will be doing it (and the drawing) at the start of major. I've added one more nation to the list who joined WA last night, and there may be a person or two who have refreshed their WA status! Go and recheck one more time and I will run the numbers in 10.5 hours!

Good luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck~