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Chery-class Destroyer
Class overview

Name

Chery class

Builders

Doraltic Naval Systems Viares

Operators

United Republics Navy

Preceeded by

Waalwijk and Felix Aue classes

Cost

$825m per ship in program

Built

2004

In Comission

2007

Planned

12, possibly up to 20

Active

8

General characteristics

Type

Destroyer

Displacement

6,500 t

Length

145 meters

Beam

20 meters

Draught

8 metres

Propulsion

CODLAG

1x 32MW Kapolder Electric Works M2200 gas turbine
2x 2.5MW Lancet-Deckard electric motors
4x 2.2 MW diesel generators
2x shafts driving controllable pitch propellers

Speed

+30 knots

Range

6,800nmi at 15 knots

Complement

166

Crew

135, plus helicopter crews

Sensors

tbd

Aircraft

2x Helicopter/Tilt-Rotor

Armament

32-cell A43 VLS
32-cell A70 VLS
4 × torpedo tubes
5" main gun
6x .50 BMG guns

Defense

Inflatable Decoy System
AADR Jamming Suite
1x Millennium Gun
1x SeaRAM launcher

The Chery-class is a class of multi-purpose frigates designed by Doraltic Naval Systems for the United Republics Navy. The lead ship of the class, Chery, was commissioned in May 2007 by the United Republics Navy. Currently, the Chery has not received attention from international navies and is reaching the end of the order made by the United Republics. It is expected to serve with the United Republics Navy into the late 2030s with a small hope for export to Gaeltic navies.

Designed after the Baetylus crisis, the United Republics Navy sought to begin the definitive replacement program for the aging Dufor Hill class guided-missile cruiser and the destroyers of the Waalwijk and Felix Aue classes. To this end, in 2002 Navy designers proposed three variants built with multi-mission modularity, the air defense variant (DDA), the anti-submarine warfare (ASW) variant, and a general-purpose/land-attack variant. As post-Baetylus budget concerns grew, the Navy was pushed into simplifying the mission profile of the class into a single variant, forcing the adoption of a combined general-purpose and air defense warship then dubbed the DXI, the twenty-first-century destroyer.

Construction on the class began in earnest in 2004 after Doraltic Naval Systems was contracted to build a new design which, to the best of their ability, broaden the scope of the GP/FREDA ("FREgates de Défense Aériennes", "Air defense frigate") design to retain anti-submarine capabilities.

Hull No.

Name

Laid Down

Launched

Commissioned

Homeport

DDG-301

Chery

April 2003

October 2006

May 2009

Waalwijk

DDG-302

Veaux

November 2006

May 2009

June 2011

Waalwijk

DDG-303

Altagene

June 2009

January 2011

February 2013

Waalwijk

DDG-304

Kapolder

February 2011

August 2014

September 2015

Waalwijk

DDG-305

Montrelais

September 2014

March 2017

April 2019

Kapolder

DDG-306

Zuid Kapolder

April 2017

October 2020

November 2022

tbd

DDG-307

Launey

November 2020

tbd

tbd

tbd

DDG-308

Cour Rogue

tbd

tbd

tbd

tbd

DDG-309

Veldzicht

tbd

tbd

tbd

tbd

DDG-310

Rattenberg

tbd

tbd

tbd

tbd

DDG-311

Stuieren Hal

tbd

tbd

tbd

tbd

DDG-312

Sud Alban

tbd

tbd

tbd

tbd


Credit to Miklania for the drawing.

Read dispatch

After sitting on this for over a year, I finally got to expanding on my domestic ship, the Chery-class. If anybody wants any, I'm open to orders, just TG me.

Athara magarat, Wellsia, and Alteran republics

Lévesque






Name

Lévesque

Role

Main Battle Tank

Origin

Dormill and Stiura

Manufacturer

South Aban Ironworks

Unit Cost

~$4,000,000

Produced

1990 -

In Service

1996 -

Status

In Service

Primary Users

Dormill and Stiura
Elvandra

Mass

57.4 t

Length

9.87 meters

Width

3.6 meters

Height

2.53 meters

Crew

3 (Commander, Gunner, Driver)

Armor

Modular composite armor
including titanium, tungsten and semi-reactive layers

Armament

120 mm main gun
12.7 mm coaxial machine gun
12.7 mm top mounted machine gun

Propulsion

V8X SACM 8-cylinder diesel engine

Fuel Capacity

1300 liters, 1700 with fuel drum

Top Speed

72 km/h on roads, 55 km/h off-road

Maximum Range

550 km, 650km with fuel drum


The Lévesque tank (French: char Lévesque) is a main battle tank (MBT) built by South Alban Ironworks. It was named in honor of General Dimitri Lévesque, who was instrumental in the Van Curan Valley campaign at the end of the Dormill-Stiura War.

The Lévesque is in service with the United Republics Armed Forces and the Elvandran Army. In production since 1990, the Lévesque entered service in 1996 with the restored United Republics Army, replacing the Barracuda as the country's main armored platform. Production, both for domestic and foreign orders is ongoing, with the United Republics Army fielding 412 Lévesque tanks, with 31 serving in the Elvandran Army.

In 1971, studies were initiated about a possible replacement vehicle for the Barracuda after observations of the Khas-Kiriat campaign (where Barracudas were used in large numbers and in offensive action) concluded. Although the Barracuda performed exceptionally well in the war against their counterparts, the Doraltic military, cognizant that the Barracuda was only a stopgap and that it would soon be outclassed by the growing class of 120mm armed tanks, began to seek out a means of enhancing on the original design. In 1973, a working committee was created that agreed on a list of specifications 1977 to address what they considered to be the most critical flaws in the original design. While some of these modifications, most important among them the inclusion of a 120mm gun to the Barracuda in the form of the 20.1A1, it became clear that the Barracuda would be insufficient in the coming 21st Century army. By 1982, the Stiuraian government began investigating other options as the tone both in the political and military spheres pointed towards the eventual replacement of the Barracuda.

This need was emphasized in the course of the Arvannan Independence War, where the Barracuda was mostly unable to fight in the urban environments that dominated the battlespace of the war. Ultimately, during talks within the Army and Marine Corps over a possible inter-service tank replacing the Barracuda and the Marine Stickleback, the decision was reached on a plan to replace the Barracuda along with an expanded set of specifications set in 1977, included this plan was that Stiura was to consider replacing the Barracuda with the Aizconan M6 Timberwolf with modifications to make it Diesel-powered alongside two domestic options, a design offered by the Kapolder-based South Alban Ironworks with a 115mm gun and one offered by Eppendorf's Eagle Industries with a 125mm gun.

In contrast to other tank programs of the time, much consideration was given to active, rather than passive protection, to limit the overall mass of the vehicle. Mobility for evading enemy fire and fire control systems were also given particular attention, both to enhance the present designs of the Barracuda and address lessons learned from the recent war. Nevertheless, it was a stated design goal to achieve at least identical protection against KE-penetrators in comparison to the level attained through the Barracuda, equal to ~400mm RHA.

In 1986, the project was started under the name of "Lévesque" with six prototypes being built by 1988. Adopted quickly by the Doraltic Army to speed up the development process, mass production started in 1990 with the four-unit Batch 1, used mainly for comparative tests against contemporary armor. The subsequent 17 units of Batch 2 were shipped in 1993, with improvements in the turret and in the hull armor as a response to poor craftsmanship in the rushed Batch 1. These units were quickly diagnosed with problems in the engine and suspension, a result of subcontractor failures during the rushed assembly. The units of Batch 2 were promptly retired and Congress held multiple hearings to address these issues, resulting in the handout of fines to nearly all companies involved in the construction of the Lévesque to that point.

The 96 unit Batch 3 followed in 1997 with some improvements and was used as the testbed for a new kind of all-digital command and control information network in the United Republics military. Now that regular production has reached a point of sufficient scale, the overall price per vehicle was reduced through a renegotiation of the contract between South Alban Ironworks and the United Republics military, securing the following batches 4 and 5 for the end of the century and eliminating the recurrent problems in the powerplant. The 231 units of these batches, also referred to as the A1 series, are still in service, after having been refitted at the end of the 2000s in line with subsequent upgrades. The A1 series was also the first built to export to other nations, with Elvandra ordering a total of 15 units.

Batch 6 was the first produced since 2000, which a new climate control system in the right rear of the turret, addressing operator complaints when operating for extended periods of time. Batch 7 introduced a data suite and transmission system to the command vehicle, giving an instantaneous vision of the state of all battle tanks and acquired targets. The system would eventually be the basis of the present Unified Battlefield Command and Control System of the United Republics. Batch 7 also incorporated minor improvements in the visor in all vehicles. Batches 8 and 9 replaced the thermal imaging ATHOS with a SAGEM Iris with better resolution and modernized the electrical system with a standardized system used across most Doraltic-manufactured military vehicles.

At the turn of 2009, all previous batches were modernized up to the standards of Batch 9, and another 100 units were delivered to the United Republics Army. In an amended agreement with the Laedenian and Serpens Land armies, the tanks in its service were also modernized to Batch 9 standard at a significantly reduced cost and in local facilities. In 2004, Batch 10 was presented, incorporating the still in development Unified Battlefield Command and Control System and the present modular armor package, including titanium and a semi-reactive layer.

This was the beginning of the 120-unit third series, designating the tank as A2 that concluded initial production in 2014. Batch 11, equipped with the newest version of the UBCCS information suite, is the current model in production, with the first order from the United Republics of 22 units being currently fulfilled with an additional 18 from Laeden. By 2023, 421 tanks should have been operational within the United Republics, with another 96 within Laeden, and 70 within Serpens Land, making it one of the most widely used tanks in the Western Isles.

Read dispatch

And I now have a tank.

Athara magarat, San Montagna, Alteran republics, and Vibor

This reminds me. I'm still looking for out of date equipment for my military. If anyone has any ships or planes in particular, I'd appreciate it.

Menna shuli wrote:This reminds me. I'm still looking for out of date equipment for my military. If anyone has any ships or planes in particular, I'd appreciate it.

What kind of planes are you looking for? I'm sure I could be a provider of surplus aircraft.

Menna shuli wrote:This reminds me. I'm still looking for out of date equipment for my military. If anyone has any ships or planes in particular, I'd appreciate it.

Bomber Aircraft

B34 "Meteor"

Side view of the B34

National origin:Corindia
Further information


Fighter/Strike Aircraft

BLN4 "Thunderclap"

Side view of the BLN4

National origin:Corindia
Further information

FB1 "Goose"

Side view of the FB1

National origin:Corindia
Further information

FB3 "Rayo"

Side view of the FB3

National origin:Corindia
Further information

FB7 "Pike"

Side view of the FB7

National origin:Corindia
Further information

MRF2 "Flecha"

Side view of the MRF2

National origin:Corindia
Further information

SF3 "Sabre"

Side view of the SF3

National origin:Corindia
Further information



Armored Vehicles

Deulofeu MT3 "Marteau" Medium Tank

Side view of the MT3

National origin:Corindia
Further information


Light Vehicles

Deulofeu LIV1 "Hound" Light Infantry Vehicle

Side view of the LIV1

National origin:Corindia
Further information

Read factbook


There have been new planes added recently

Athara magarat and Belle ilse en terre

Miklania wrote:What kind of planes are you looking for? I'm sure I could be a provider of surplus aircraft.

I'm looking for out-of-date aircraft. In terms of planes, anything suitable for coastal patrols and anti-ship stuff. The majority of the airforce is actually more like helicopters and cargo planes aside from that.

Corindia wrote:
Bomber Aircraft

B34 "Meteor"

Side view of the B34

National origin:Corindia
Further information


Fighter/Strike Aircraft

BLN4 "Thunderclap"

Side view of the BLN4

National origin:Corindia
Further information

FB1 "Goose"

Side view of the FB1

National origin:Corindia
Further information

FB3 "Rayo"

Side view of the FB3

National origin:Corindia
Further information

FB7 "Pike"

Side view of the FB7

National origin:Corindia
Further information

MRF2 "Flecha"

Side view of the MRF2

National origin:Corindia
Further information

SF3 "Sabre"

Side view of the SF3

National origin:Corindia
Further information



Armored Vehicles

Deulofeu MT3 "Marteau" Medium Tank

Side view of the MT3

National origin:Corindia
Further information


Light Vehicles

Deulofeu LIV1 "Hound" Light Infantry Vehicle

Side view of the LIV1

National origin:Corindia
Further information

Read factbook


There have been new planes added recently

I know almost nothing about planes and therefore can't tell what would be considered out-of-date or crappy, which is what I'm looking for.

Menna shuli wrote:I'm looking for out-of-date aircraft. In terms of planes, anything suitable for coastal patrols and anti-ship stuff. The majority of the airforce is actually more like helicopters and cargo planes aside from that.

I could sell you some of these cute little guys: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/44/88/2c4488257665ffd9166bf9c072dbb1c0.png

Or a lighter, simpler version of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F-8_Crusader

Or some of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-106_Delta_Dart

Or any of these: http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/10/proposed-super-furies.html

Edit: These are all out of date, but I wouldn't necessarily call them crappy. At least not when they were designed. And if they are used by people that take good care of them.

Athara magarat

Menna shuli wrote:I'm looking for out-of-date aircraft. In terms of planes, anything suitable for coastal patrols and anti-ship stuff. The majority of the airforce is actually more like helicopters and cargo planes aside from that.

Something like the SU-17 may fill that niche.

Balnik wrote:Something like the SU-17 may fill that niche.

The Su-20 and 22 are the export versions.

Miklania wrote:The Su-20 and 22 are the export versions.

Okay.

Menna shuli wrote:I know almost nothing about planes and therefore can't tell what would be considered out-of-date or crappy, which is what I'm looking for.

If you want out of date and crappy, look no further than anything made by Sukhoi.

Miklania wrote:If you want out of date and crappy, look no further than anything made by Sukhoi.

Nice b8

The mig 27 is also a proficient attacker aircraft as well. Same with the Étendard IV and IAR-93 Vultur

Balnik wrote:The mig 27 is also a proficient attacker aircraft as well.

Yeah but it's even uglier than the Fitter.

Miklania wrote:Yeah but it's even uglier than the Fitter.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Beggars can't be choosers.

Menna shuli wrote:I'm looking for out-of-date aircraft. In terms of planes, anything suitable for coastal patrols and anti-ship stuff. The majority of the airforce is actually more like helicopters and cargo planes aside from that.

One thing that you should take into consideration is the fact that as aircraft get older, the cost of maintaining them increases dramatically. More things begin breaking. And the things that start breaking tend to be the expensive things. You start to reach the end of the service life of major structural components, which need to be replaced at great expense if you want to keep using the airplane. Once aircraft are out of production, it becomes much more difficult to source parts unless you bought yourself a nice little stockpile of them. For most countries on a budget, that's not possible, and you'll have to resort to cannibalizing aircraft or buying spares off a larger operator, which will be very expensive as they need their own spares. So really old and really crappy =/= cheaper. One or the other, at most. At the time you bought the aircraft, there would have been a strong argument for buying new or completely refurbished aircraft, to keep the long-term costs down.

Reliability and parts availability should be the first criteria, followed by unit cost, and then by performance.

Miklania wrote:I could sell you some of these cute little guys: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/44/88/2c4488257665ffd9166bf9c072dbb1c0.png

Or a lighter, simpler version of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F-8_Crusader

Or some of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-106_Delta_Dart

Or any of these: http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/10/proposed-super-furies.html

Edit: These are all out of date, but I wouldn't necessarily call them crappy. At least not when they were designed. And if they are used by people that take good care of them.

The last big purchases made by MS were in the 80s. I dunno how that translates.

Miklania wrote:One thing that you should take into consideration is the fact that as aircraft get older, the cost of maintaining them increases dramatically. More things begin breaking. And the things that start breaking tend to be the expensive things. You start to reach the end of the service life of major structural components, which need to be replaced at great expense if you want to keep using the airplane. Once aircraft are out of production, it becomes much more difficult to source parts unless you bought yourself a nice little stockpile of them. For most countries on a budget, that's not possible, and you'll have to resort to cannibalizing aircraft or buying spares off a larger operator, which will be very expensive as they need their own spares. So really old and really crappy =/= cheaper. One or the other, at most. At the time you bought the aircraft, there would have been a strong argument for buying new or completely refurbished aircraft, to keep the long-term costs down.

Reliability and parts availability should be the first criteria, followed by unit cost, and then by performance.

I get that. It would be a sunk cost fallacy thing, I think. The longer the government goes without allowing for a mothballing of old equipment and new purchases, the worse the problem becomes and the more expensive the concept of replacements become, even if it would save money in the long term. A lot of senators are too tied up in prestige projects or kleptocratic government corporations to really press for long-term plans like that.

Menna shuli wrote:The last big purchases made by MS were in the 80s. I dunno how that translates.

That list is good then. We would have pushed the simplified F-8 hardest, for our own economic reasons. The Super Furies are going to be the cheapest, but have the shortest service life remaining. The Convair Model 201 derivative shown first would be as good of a performer as the F-8 derivative but cost a little more up front. However, as the F-8 derivative was designed as a dedicated export fighter (you might be the first, and only customer unless other people show interest), and the Model 201 derivative was a standardized MSTO naval fighter, you might be able to source parts more easily over the aircraft's lifespan. Although at the time the F-8 would have claimed lower maintenance costs. The F-106s are an option but in the 80's are still front-line interceptors, and are probably too expensive and specialized for your purposes.

Menna shuli wrote:I get that. It would be a sunk cost fallacy thing, I think. The longer the government goes without allowing for a mothballing of old equipment and new purchases, the worse the problem becomes and the more expensive the concept of replacements become, even if it would save money in the long term. A lot of senators are too tied up in prestige projects or kleptocratic government corporations to really press for long-term plans like that.

In that case I recommend the Super Furies.

Edit: F-8 derivative would be a close second.

Miklania wrote:That list is good then. We would have pushed the simplified F-8 hardest, for our own economic reasons. The Super Furies are going to be the cheapest, but have the shortest service life remaining. The Convair Model 201 derivative shown first would be as good of a performer as the F-8 derivative but cost a little more up front. However, as the F-8 derivative was designed as a dedicated export fighter (you might be the first, and only customer unless other people show interest), and the Model 201 derivative was a standardized MSTO naval fighter, you might be able to source parts more easily over the aircraft's lifespan. Although at the time the F-8 would have claimed lower maintenance costs. The F-106s are an option but in the 80's are still front-line interceptors, and are probably too expensive and specialized for your purposes.

Miklania wrote:In that case I recommend the Super Furies.

Edit: F-8 derivative would be a close second.

I'm going for the F-8 derivative I think. Do you have a write up?

Alteran republics

Updated information for the A3, along with some new graphics:
page=dispatch/id=1159007#A3

Miklania, Dormill and Stiura, and Athara magarat

Menna shuli wrote:I know almost nothing about planes and therefore can't tell what would be considered out-of-date or crappy, which is what I'm looking for.

Oh, that whole factbook is a list of the planes that are out of date but could still plausibly be used or sold.

I have three, one is for "modern" aircraft, one is for historical aircraft, and this one which fills the middle ground.

Sorry if that wasn't clear

Menna shuli wrote:I'm going for the F-8 derivative I think. Do you have a write up?

No but I can start one. Some basic ideas:

The Miklanian Navy was really in love with the original F-8 design developed by [company that will get absorbed into Nolan-Garrett]. It would be the standard fighter from the late 50's through the late 70's. It would not, however, be successful on the export market. It had many very complicated features, like the tilting wing. To fill the Miklanian government requirement for a cheap easily exported fighter, NG would simplify the design by using a redesigned, fixed wing and a new, lighter and more efficient (and simultaneously more powerful) turbofan engine. They would also use modern solid state electronics to provide equal or greater performance to the originals at lower cost. Effectively, we are talking about a hot-rodded land only evolution of the aircraft. We would push this one hard because we want to keep one of NG's factories in business long enough for them to get contracts for other aircraft. That ultimately won't happen, and this aircraft only prolongs the inevitable. I don't expect this fighter to sell to that many people. At the time of sale, the fighter would have promised low costs, even though they would be bought new, and very low maintenance costs. That would hold true until about the early 2000s, when parts would start to dry up. Realistically, you'd start cannibalizing usable aircraft around 2005.

She's based on the LTV V-1000 concept, which was basically Vought's attempt to beat out the F-5 for the US's standard "hi third world country you're not communist have some fighters" fighter.

Athara magarat

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