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Hear hear!
Tiny European state that got replaced two centuries later, and an even tinier European state that has done like nothing ever.
Perhaps not per capita, but we definitely have the wealthiest people.
Outskirts of the Colorado River, Ute Tribes - Winter 1000 C.E
Today was an important day for the Ute Tribe, in fact it was the most important day in the plain lives of hunters and herders of the barren canyons in this side of the Americas. Herders of Bison and hunters of various reptiles and critters gathered upon the foot of a great valley; supported by tall iron beams and scaffolding in various colors of hyde, dyed in various animals, plants and flowers to give it it's iconic red rings and triangular blues; hiding the people in the small valley in a soft blanket of rainbow shade. On the right, the common folk have arrived upon the intrepid journey after news had reach them through the messengers on horse-back; hunters of distinguished classes, young men who took up the new-age farming occupation and women with children running around their feet. On the left, the other chiefs, marked by their face paints and leather armor brandished with plates of iron, copper and brass covering their body as if they were readying for war, followed by merchants, some faces recognizable, others do not, all wearing different pompous clothing from their homelands. Then the chief rose, and in it he announced with great zeal and even greater pride.
"Today, is a symbolic day. I have summoned you lot here to undergo a great trek; a journey to the far lands of the occident across the great unwavering sea. It is with great duty I take that the Great Council has appointed our most distinguished peoples to be the delegates of the far land of Ashya* and present forth great gifts that will paid back by the Earth Mother ten-fold!"
In the next morning, large canoes made of great trees in the far north were brought by the people of the Misihsibi; their size was nearly half of the canyon and three lay there like beasts of the sea; with iron plates in it's hull thick as rocks and the large wheel of metal along with contraptions that only the men in the ships know. Smoke bellowed from it as if the beast was awoken, and its pristine colorful decrations of oak wood showed the heads of the eagle, coyote and bison. The ship's wings made of fabric flew upon the first sign of the Sun and like that the three ships were set to sail across the Pacific.
*Ashya: My prediction of what native americans would call Asia based on other people's speech, pronounced something like ASH-YAH.
Nonsense. Only a horribly informed or outright ignorant person would claim that the United Provinces 'has done like nothing ever'. I don't believe you got your facts straight. Allow me to give you a proper briefing.
1) The Constitution your Founding Fathers made? The same you used to justify your leave of the British Dominion? Sorry to break it to you, but your Founding Fathers copied and pasted the 'Acte van Verlatinge' of the United Provinces that was generations before your Found Fathers were even born. At most they added a few sentences and translated it from Dutch. So kudos for that.
2)For such a small nation that did nothing we sure as hell dominated the world economy for quite some time, I daresay. Even more and longer than the USA has done. The Verenigde Oost-Indische compagnie monopolized the Spice trade and crushed the British and Portugese for quite some time on their own. Not bad for a nation so tiny and weak.
3)What about the banking institutions? Stocks? You know, the foundation of capitalism? It may be surprising to you, but those were not invented by the Americans or the British for that matter. It was the Dutch.
So before you start throwing insults you should read up the facts first. Perhaps you ought to be grateful, because the freedom and capitalism that made America so great? The Dutch did it first, and the Americans copied.
I said that in reference to the Swiss? So like?
While I do thinks it’s funny that the entire rant was because you read my post wrong, I do enjoy your blatant Dutch nationalism.
You do realize he is a Chinese nationalist rather than a Dutch one?
But to go back to the original question, even Rome was a successful republic before the United states. And it is also the question whether or not America will remain "the greatest" nation in the world. While Western Europe has a fixed position in the world America's foundation is weak due to its inconsistency of its leaders and is hated/envied/disdained around the world. It is thus that while America looks big and powerful on the outside but from the inside it is weak and crumbling. The only country in the Western world with a weaker foundation than America currently is France. Due to its evershifting policies America is much more prone to make big mistakes and fall.
No, Pernambuco is...bo noit
It seems odd to me that you claim the US is internally crumbling, whilst not being on the inside of the US.
Long Live The Republic!
The old Monarchy had finally been overthrown. The rule of former monarchs, while certainly beneficial for the nation, could not stop the Republican and reactionary fervor that had dominated the nation during the rule of Sicheii Chee IV, a man that wished to rapidly Romanize the nation, both from a technological standpoint but also culturally, going as far to adopt a Latin name. However, such a thing would not be tolerated by the Haudenosaunee people, holding strong to both their cultural and national identity, along with still holding contempt for the Romans after they had conquered their lands and subjugated their kinsmen. While tension was certainly present during the rules of previous monarchs, with their reforms leading to both more Roman influence and more Romans in general being present in Iroquois land, with cultural conflicts being increasingly common, it had never reached such an extent. With an economic depression affecting the entirety of the Kingdom, with the Sicheii Chee’s efforts having little to no effect for the most part, and the increase of anti-monarchist writers, the situation had reached its breaking point. However, Sicheii Chee was arrogant, and believed that the failed Peasant Revolt of 996 would discourage many citizens from rising up once more and raising the Republican flag. On October 22nd, 1000 CE, the monarchy which had lasted for over two hundred years would finally meet its demise. With Sicheii Chee elevating a native Roman from the status of courtier to the position of councilman, anger and outrage had filled the minds and hearts of the Iroquois people. Farmers, artisans and craftsmen alike had filled the streets of Onondaga and other major cities, chanting a variety of revolutionary phrases such as “Down with the Chee!” and “Glory to the Republic!”.
Fortifications were rapidly raised in Onondaga and what few levies remained were raised, with soldiers being told to affix their bayonets, but not to fire, with officers most likely wishing to avoid an outright civil war. However, in what was most likely an accident, a soldier had fired a shot into the mob, with the rest of the soldiers following suit, killing over thirty people. Conflict was now inevitable. The areas surrounding the royal palace were turned into fortresses as all hell broke loose within the city, and with emergency services temporarily suspended, the city was figuratively and literally, on fire. Several hours later, the palace had fallen to the rebels, with the royal family executed in it. The majority of the aristocrats and the king’s court would face a similar fate, with only a minute number of them simply being detained. Shortly following, a council of thirty six was assembled, consisting of some of the most prominent revolutionaries, being given a month from December to properly draft a constitution.
The Swiss are not tinier than the Netherlands, though. The Netherlands are smaller.
I only like Dutch history. I am flat out disappointed with what the Netherlands has become. Especially in the recent years. I will most likely emigrate.
Hmm. Perhaps it’s a Mercator projection error, but in my head Switzerland was smaller. How odd.
Oh this should be fun.
Also, I’d like to hear your point in regards to the poll.
Liberal Democracy or Bust.
In regards to the poll, dropping a nuke was not necessary for their surrender in my opinion, especially when a big 'ol Soviet bear was sweeping through Manchuria and Korea, and had plans to land in the Japanese mainland, which was within their naval and aerial capabilities, was the primary reason for the Japanese surrendering. The nukes had only applied that extra amount of pressure required to get the Japanese to crack.
Neither are you, the US is to big and consists of too many states for anyone to be able to claim of being on the inside of the entire US. Unless its your job or you travel a lot.
A president that holds no power but also holds to much power, a nation where a president can change the course of the nation on a whim only to be changed again by his successor. A nation that only lives on being the world leading power, but its position is bound to be taken over by China within the next 100 years.
Tell me what happens when Chinese companies take over the position of American companies such as apple? A big part of America's economy survives by having a 'monopoly'. It is therefore I think America is not crumbling but rather does nothing about the rust its acquiring and therefore will eventually crumble, I'm sorry that I've previously misspoken.
while the dutch republic is hella cool, there's some inaccuracies in the claims you're making
1) this claim is incorrect- the constution was heavily influenced by British philosophers (such as John Locke) and British documents like the Magna Carta. It's also a little insulting that you refer to one of the most concise, oldest working constitutions in the world, with some of the most robust protections against abuse of power in the world as something that was basically ripped off of the Dutch.
2) don't know a whole lot about this, but I'm reasonably certain this is true
3) banking as an idea is hella old. Mesopotamia had primitive banking. The oldest operating bank in the world is in Italy, operating since 1472. The second oldest operating bank is in Germany, founded by Dutch Brothers, in operation since 1590. Even with stocks you're incorrect. The English had joint stock companies before the Dutch. In ancient China during the Song dynasty there's evidence of primitive joint stock companies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint-stock_company#Early_joint-stock_companies
3) He's badly referring to the world first 'stock market'
What a wonderful first post! As Xin mentioned, you have a real knack for descriptive writing.
Kingsguard? Do I spy a fellow member of the Brotherhood without Banners?
Ironclad canoes, that's really clever. I think it's interesting how different countries have entirely different ships; Rome has galleys, China has junks, and now you have canoes.
The only thing I'm not entirely sure about is whether you have a Pacific coastline. Though if you're planning to go around the Strait of Magellan, I think that's certainly possible.
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