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Plazland wrote:Would it? It's called working hard and getting your DF up, plus it doesn't mean you'll die. Just look at Wirr, he has no military, yet he has survived.

The things is that issues, the things that affect your stats, range from interesting to ridiculous and details in most of them don't even align with your non stat canon.

Shavara, Greater felter, and BearStackof2015

Peatiktist wrote:I'm just gonna not get into this conversation.
I'm not gonna risk getting banned from TEP for any reason.

Here's a quick summary: Some guy lied about his background and masqueraded as a girl to infiltrate TEP and then hastily confessed when we had proof, agreed to resign quietly and go away, and then went loud and public for no apparent reason. Tim put out a statement without checking with me about 30 minutes later while I was having an Easter picnic with my wife and kids. I don't really see anything wrong with the statement, though, unless there's something I'm missing.

Greater felter wrote:I have negative weapons.

Would that mean all of your weapons are counter-productive or something? Like your guns shoot backward?

Stellar Colonies, Kampf Empire, Shavara, Greater felter, and 3 othersWestern pakistan, BearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Mystic forest wrote:I heard from a little birdie (actually just [nation]Plazland[nation], you're a bird now), back a long time ago when you asked what people thought of this "Elem" (I know her full name, but dare not say it due to be slapped by Paktisk or something), along with, please, if somebody can actually tell me the full story about that person, I feel like it is something that has really impacted the community in both ways. I would be lying to say if I wasn't curious haha, but anyways, that the reason Plazland actually cared about SA (Scientific Advancement if I remember correctly?) because of that person.

I don't know why I typed this up, I had a reason, now as I finish, I don't.

We... we can't tell the person's story in the RMB, it would be rude in TG too, but I guess I can tell in TG.

Euricanis, Greater felter, BearStackof2015, Tenkyoku, and 1 otherMystic forest

Shavara wrote:Yes, but we DO have a rule that heavily restricts nuclear weapons and Elem's powers, and as Felter said, according to NS stats, she would be a defenseless country, while in canon, she has an army sized enough to protect her nation.

Would you imagine nations with higher stats of DF just picking on nations with low stats of DF just to win wars? That is completely outrageous and ruins the fun.

It's called working hard, as stated in the first post. If you have the ability to get extremity strong, it doesn't allow trial by error and working to get better, as you could just have a strong enough army and be unstoppable.I say it allows more fun, as people could test out their stats and skills, as it also takes skills to use their stats. If you have a extremely low army, you could use Ooc knowledge to make yourself unstoppable against a larger nation with a larger army.

Tenkyoku wrote:I am, personally, a character-driven RPer. What this means is that I place less value on my nation than I do the people within it. The nation itself is important, but Tenkyoku is so weird and crazy that NS stats can’t really reflect it well. It’s got a small but fanatical population, a few supernatural elements, and so on. Now, I don’t answer issues much. The reason is partially laziness, partially unpredictability. I don’t even know what my NS stats are. My NS population is too big for the nation really, considering the lore of it, for example. But I do definitely want to avoid trying to use this be OP. Power isn’t really my goal. I just like writing stuff.

Now, NS stats do provide an objective basis. Though how much does it matter? Let’s use DF as an example. If my DF is higher, do I automatically win any war against you? No. At most it’d be part of a calculation that tells me how many forces I can have maximum. So there’s still going to be arguments over the actions taken over the course of the war, most likely. While I understand why they can be important, I also note that they don’t always resolve this sort of issue reliably. All that said, once again, I’m biased.

Yes, and that's a advantage of having no stats, it allows more choice in what your nation wants to be, but it's also a downside. It allows a person to just gain god like powers because it's in there "lore," hense allowing godmodding.

And, just to admit, I'm terrible at arguing >~<
So, unless I want to be butchered by the entire TEP (Which is literally happening right now *Angery*) I'll say lets drop this.

Stellar Colonies, Euricanis, Shavara, Greater felter, and 3 othersThe angel of charity, BearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Fedele wrote:Here's a quick summary: Some guy lied about his background and masqueraded as a girl to infiltrate TEP and then hastily confessed when we had proof, agreed to resign quietly and go away, and then went loud and public for no apparent reason. Tim put out a statement without checking with me about 30 minutes later while I was having an Easter picnic with my wife and kids. I don't really see anything wrong with the statement, though, unless there's something I'm missing.

Wow, I am seriously out of the loop on these things.

Mystic forest wrote:I heard from a little birdie (actually just Plazland, you're a bird now), back a long time ago when you asked what people thought of this "Elem" (I know her full name, but dare not say it due to be slapped by Paktisk or something), along with, please, if somebody can actually tell me the full story about that person, I feel like it is something that has really impacted the community in both ways. I would be lying to say if I wasn't curious haha, but anyways, that the reason Plazland actually cared about SA (Scientific Advancement if I remember correctly?) because of that person.

I don't know why I typed this up, I had a reason, now as I finish, I don't.

It's been a while

She was an RP'er that was around for quite a while as two nations, and also wrote some rules for it. I think she was banned once or twice by the mods.

She made a brief comeback at one point, but stopped coming back online.

I don't really know much else after that.

Kampf Empire, Greater felter, The angel of charity, Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich, and 1 otherMystic forest

The new wisconsin empire

Is everybody back from "Spending time with there family's "
Whatever that's supposed to mean

Stellar Colonies, Greater felter, BearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Shavara wrote:snip

That archive is a good idea, then I can get my history better.

I was also thinking about how people can be so hypocritical and not look at information. One person may say 'Oh what's the matter, my ideas causing your brain to explode?" and then they'll go "WHAT! THAT IS CROSSING THE LINE!" I just needed to bring that up to let it go.

Shavara, Greater felter, BearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Shavara wrote:We... we can't tell the person's story in the RMB, it would be rude in TG too, but I guess I can tell in TG.

Could I please ask to hear it too, out of curiosity? It’s fine if you refuse, I just hear it brought up every now and then and wonder about it.

Peatiktist, Shavara, and Greater felter

Greater felter

Mystic forest wrote:I heard from a little birdie (actually just Plazland, you're a bird now), back a long time ago when you asked what people thought of this "Elem" (I know her full name, but dare not say it due to be slapped by Paktisk or something), along with, please, if somebody can actually tell me the full story about that person, I feel like it is something that has really impacted the community in both ways. I would be lying to say if I wasn't curious haha, but anyways, that the reason Plazland actually cared about SA (Scientific Advancement if I remember correctly?) because of that person.

I don't know why I typed this up, I had a reason, now as I finish, I don't.

Person. Person is Elem. Elem does ship RPs and future stuff for awhile. Elem used to be plux. Same thing. Elem and Shavara do stuff. Elem keeps doing RPs. New map. Map is by NWE. Elem gets in fight with person over island. Elem quits. Elems GF appears, or so that’s what they say. Goes full Russian and Elem is CTE. New Elem comes and does RP. Elem has gun the apparently explodes. The end.

Peatiktist, The angel of charity, Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich, BearStackof2015, and 1 otherMystic forest

Stellar Colonies wrote:With TAMDEG, I think we just unofficially agreed that it was happening on Earth but including a continent in the South Pacific called Talios.

I miss Talios. I really didn't help TAMDEG when I declared war on Talitoa.

Stellar Colonies wrote:Kampf was founded during the late TAMDEG Era, and participated in one of the Jar Jar RPs.

Fun times. Fun times...

Stellar Colonies wrote:Probably the adoption of NS Stats as canon.

sigh

* Whistles innocently *

Stellar Colonies, Greater felter, and BearStackof2015

Greater felter wrote:Over half my population is homeless and unemployed. You can spend 3k on non tax a year.

Its prob cause prob a capitalist and tax people a ton

Greater felter

Restoration of Eastern Kaiserreich wrote:Huh The Holy Utopian Republic you'll be able to relate to

CONFEDERATE DETECTED

Greater felter

Euricanis wrote:Would that mean all of your weapons are counter-productive or something? Like your guns shoot backward?

We are in debt for weapons to ourselves so we sell our weapons to pay debt.

Ooc: Well, night

Stellar Colonies, Kampf Empire, Peatiktist, Shavara, and 3 othersGreater felter, BearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Greater felter wrote:
Person. Person is Elem. Elem does ship RPs and future stuff for awhile. Elem used to be plux. Same thing. Elem and Shavara do stuff. Elem keeps doing RPs. New map. Map is by NWE. Elem gets in fight with person over island. Elem quits. Elems GF appears, or so that’s what they say. Goes full Russian and Elem is CTE. New Elem comes and does RP. Elem has gun the apparently explodes. The end.

"I'm gonna say the E-word"-
*Gets suppressed*

Stellar Colonies, Peatiktist, Shavara, Greater felter, and 2 othersBearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Osterreich und ungarn

Whistles in War Intervention.

Stellar Colonies, Kampf Empire, Shavara, Greater felter, and 2 othersRestoration of Eastern Kaiserreich, and Mystic forest

Greater felter

Plazland wrote:Ooc: Well, night

IC:
Well, night.
Jk

Stellar Colonies, Shavara, BearStackof2015, and Mystic forest

Plazland wrote:Ooc: Well, night

OOC: Night!

Greater felter and BearStackof2015

Greater felter

I’m feeling peaceful. No ones dying tonight.

Euricanis wrote:Would that mean all of your weapons are counter-productive or something? Like your guns shoot backward?

Remember when we used EoE to kill a bunch of EBT Trees on an island I decided to nuke?

Stellar Colonies, Pakitsk, Shavara, and Greater felter

Greater felter wrote:IC:
Well, night.
Jk

But how does one nation sleep without CTEing

Stellar Colonies, Greater felter, and Western pakistan

Plazland wrote:Ooc: Well, night

G'night

Greater felter, Western pakistan, and BearStackof2015

Kampf Empire wrote:Remember when we used EoE to kill a bunch of EBT Trees on an island I decided to nuke?

I remember that!
I got to go to bed, good night!

Stellar Colonies, Vultuca, Kampf Empire, Shavara, and 3 othersGreater felter, Western pakistan, and BearStackof2015

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