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Dendrobium wrote:
This post is in response to the upcoming referendum.

The referendum to be held soon seeks to expand the Constitution; which is a good thing, as it should always be kept up with the latest changes or challenges our lovely Thaecia faces. However, there are some questionable points to this to be voted on expansion that should be brought to light.
First, this change to the Constitution states that “If the President is a WA-Waivered nation, they must select a WA citizen to act as Vice President for them, who will assume their role of representing the Region in the World Assembly.” Which would make sense, if not for other parts already in the Constitution that may bring up debate on the legitimacy of such scenario. Article VI and VII of the existing Constitution read that only citizens have the right to run for office and be elected legally; and to be a citizen, one must be a member of the Word Assembly.
That on its own could have potentially made the expansion illegitimate or even illegal if it were not for something explained in detail in the previously mentioned Article VI on citizenship; “This requirement may be bypassed by […] a telegram from a nation in the WA confirming the non-WA resident is a puppet of the WA nation elsewhere. The waiver may also be revoked […].”. By law, an elected official can be legal while not being part of the WA, which in the case of “lower” positions, such as MP, Senator or part of a committee, positions where membership of the WA is nearly, if not, unimportant, should not be a problem. Once this reaches, debatably, one of, if not the, most important position in Thaecia, the Presidency, a debate on moral legitimacy, besides legal legitimacy, rises.
Can we, as residents and citizens, be sure our elected President will fully act with the importance of Thaecia and all those who reside in it in mind, when it is perfectly possible said President is no more than a puppet state or secondary account of another nation in another region? When we vote for someone, do we not want them to represent and care for those who they are elected to represent and care for? Is such thing truly possible when the President (no less!) is no member of the WA, and therefore cannot be a citizen of Thaecia without personal and direct interference of the highest possible officials in our region? Such questions are worth thinking of.

Note that this reactionary post is not an attack on the authors of this Amendment, but simply a way of sparking an inevitable debate on not just legal, but firstly a moral debate on the legitimacy of the one whose most important job is to represent Thaecia before the World Assembly and lead or great region. That is why no nations are mentioned in this post which is meant to bring up a debate, not to tell residents how to vote. Thank you for your patience and stay healthy.



THIRD CONSTITUTION OF THAECIA

Article I - The Executive Branch
  • Section I - The Executive branch of government, also known as the Cabinet, shall be composed of the Prime Minister, and its Ministers, as decreed by law or as nominated by the Prime Minister and appointed by a confirmation vote by the House of Commons; the Cabinet shall at least be composed of a Minister tasked with Foreign Affairs, a Minister tasked with Domestic Affairs, and a Minister tasked with Legal Affairs.

  • Section II - A Minister can be dismissed through unilateral dismissal by the Prime Minister, or through a vote of no confidence by the House of Commons. The Prime Minister shall also have all regional government powers: Appearance, Border Control, Communications, Embassies and Polls. They shall be able to veto legislation which has not received a two thirds majority and has not been enshrined in law for fifteen days.

  • Section III - The President shall serve as elected WA delegate representing the Region in the World Assembly. The president shall be the Head of State of Thaecia, observing only the Powers of the Prime Minister, when the office of the Prime Minister is vacant.

    • Sub-section I - The President has the authority to represent the region as a whole for matters relating to the World Assembly.

    • Sub-section II - If a citizen acquires more endorsements than the President, they may be ejected to preserve the power of the President to be the WA Delegate.

    • Sub-section III - The President, as WA delegate, has the power to sponsor and propose World Assembly legislation.

  • Section IV - The President may call for a snap election in the Upper or Lower Chambers of Congress with the consensus of Cabinet Ministers. Should no majority be found 10 days after an election, the President shall also be allowed to extend the deadline for the formation of a majority coalition in the Senate or House of Commons by up to a maximum of 10 days if no coalition can be formed in time. When this deadline is reached, a snap election shall be held.

    • Sub-section I - A snap election cannot be held when a blocking majority overrides the President and Cabinet decision in a two third majority in both chambers of Congress.

  • Section V - The President has the legal power to ban in the event of a regional emergency. The Cabinet must give its consent to the President before this action is taken. The Court has the power to overturn this decision, provided there was no regional emergency.

  • Section VI - The Roleplay Secretary shall serve as Head of Roleplay and run the Roleplay. They shall be exempt from the cabinet. The Prime Minister reserves the right to appoint and fire the Roleplay Secretary. After appointed the Roleplay Secretary shall then go to a confirmation vote within the Thaecian Roleplay, organised by the Electoral Commissioner. Only thaecian citizens who have been officially roleplayers as per the procedures of the Roleplay Secretary shall be allowed to vote on this confirmation vote. Should a Roleplay Secretary confirmation vote occur during an RP reset, those who were in the Roleplay at the point of reset shall have the right to vote.

  • Section VII - The Prime Minister and any other ministers the Prime Minister delegates the power to have the power to sign inter-regional pacts and treaties and the Prime Minister has the power to withdraw from inter-regional pacts and treaties once they've been ratified. Both these actions require Congressional approval in the form of a simple majority vote in the Senate.

  • Section VIII - The President can be impeached when the Senate acknowledges the impeachable offenses as is decreed by law, this by a two third majority vote in the senate, followed by a two third majority vote in the House to impeach the President from office, following immediate election for the vacant seat of the Presidency. Whereas the Prime Minister shall observe in limited capacity the duties of the President in sede vacante.

  • Section IX - The Prime Minister can only be impeached by a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister starting in the House of Commons with a two third majority vote, followed by a confirmation vote in the Senate by simple majority. The President shall have the authority to veto the confirmation vote in the Senate, unless a two third majority of senate support was present. A successful vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister shall result in an immediate organisation of election for the vacant seat; while in time of sede vacante the clear successor shall observe the duties of the Prime Minister.

Article II - The Legislative Branch

  • Section I - The Legislative branch of government, also known as congress, shall be a bicameral legislature. The lower chamber shall be called the House of Commons (also known as the Commons or simply the House) and shall consist of at least seven members of parliament (MPs). The upper chamber shall be called the Senate and shall consist of at least 5 senators. In order to expand the number of seats in either house, two thirds of both chambers and the region, in the form of a referendum, must approve of the expansion. The expansion must always result in an odd number of seats in a chamber.

  • Section II - Any bill drafted and proposed by one of the Chambers of Congress must achieve a majority of the chamber's support, before it can go to the other chamber of Congress where it needs to reach the same majority. If it fails to reach a majority in the second chamber, it may be sent back to the first chamber to be amended or scrapped. If it does command support of the second chamber, it will become law.

    • Sub-Section I - A majority shall be defined as:

      1. a simple majority: a majority of at least 50%+1 votes in favour, where abstention will not be counted as a vote.

      2. a two third majority: a majority of at least two thirds of votes in favour, where abstention will not be counted as a vote.

  • Section III - Each chamber will be led by one senator/MP in the caucus of the ruling coalition, where the ruling coalition is the coalition whose sum of the number of seats of the parties in the coalition is greater than half of the total number of seats in that chamber. The Speaker of the House and the Chairman of the Senate shall have the power to determine their chamber's agenda. Both roles are chosen by a simple majority vote by the members of the respective chambers. Parties can only put forward one candidate for the chambers leadership elections. In the event in which no candidate is tied, but at the same time no candidate received more than 50% of the votes, a run-off is held between the two candidate who received the most votes. All chamber leadership elections shall be officiated by the Electoral Commissioner.

  • Section IV - The Leadership of one of the Chambers of Congress can be changed by a 'constructive vote of no confidence' in the Speaker or Chairperson. The constructive motion can be initiated with the support of at least one third of members of a chamber. The debate and voting on the motion shall be presided by the electoral commissioner. The motion must receive a simple majority of the chamber's support, and at least two third of members must have cast a vote. A constructive vote of no-confidence shall be capped at one every 60 days for the Senate, and one every 30 days for the House of Commons.

    • Sub-section I - a constructive vote of no confidence: a motion where a replacement (coalition) for a certain function is already present and nominated in the motion. It fuses both the 'vote of no confidence' as the 'election' afterwards in one vote. When both motions require the same type of majority.

Article III - The Judicial Branch
  • Section I - The Judicial Branch will be composed of the High Court, which itself will be composed of three justices: the chief justice and two associate justices.

    • Sub-section I - Justices shall be nominated by the PM following a Confirmation vote in the Senate with a majority vote. Amongst themselves they shall elect one Chief Justice in Conclave.

    • Sub-section II - The court is under no obligation to accept every case which is filed before it.

    • Sub-section III - The court can review criminal charges - where a law has been violated, civil lawsuits - where one resident sues another, or constitutional challenges - where a law or action violates a portion of this document. The court is the only body which can approve a revocation of citizenship.

    • Sub-section IV - The justices on the court shall give their opinions on a case, and the opinion (for example, whether a bill is constitutional or not) with the most votes from the justices shall be the ruling. The opinion considered of the highest quality by the justices will be the majority opinion, and the justices which support it will be listed as assenting justices; the justices who disagree shall be listed as dissenting justices.

    • Sub-section V - Justices have no term limits and their tenures end when they are impeached or resign.

    • Sub-section VI - The Court has the power to unban someone.

  • Section II - If a Justice ceases to exist, they lose their Justice position. If they are revived, they may be nominated again, but do not automatically regain their position as Justice.

  • Section III - The Legislature shall be entitled to create more judicial courts or chambers, these courts created by law shall be lower courts, of which the High Court shall be deemed as the supreme judicial authority.

Article IV - Constitutional Amendments
  • Section I - The Constitution can be amended by a bill originating in the Senate or the House. The legislation must receive two thirds support in each chamber. Afterwards, the amendment shall go to a regional vote where 3/5ths approval must be achieved.

Article V - Supremacy
  • Section I - The Constitution is bears the greatest legal authority in the region - all legislation, treaties, et cetera shall be considered less powerful and if they violate this constitution, they should be struck down by the High Court.

Article VI - Citizenship
  • To be a citizen, residents must be in the World Assembly (WA). This requirement may be bypassed by sending the Prime Minister, President or Home Affairs Minister a telegram from a nation in the WA confirming the non-WA resident is a puppet of the WA nation elsewhere. The waiver may also be revoked by the Justice Ministry, which can be challenged in court if the person whose waiver was revoked feels it was wrong or unjust. One person may have no more than 1 nation as a citizen in this region.

Article VII - Rights
  • Section I - All residents are guaranteed the following liberties without government interference:

    • The right to speak their mind, provided this does not breach NS rules.

    • The right to form or join a political party.

    • The right to challenge the government, by means such as no confidence votes and court cases.

    • The right to run for public office, provided they are citizens.

    • The right to a due process and a fair and free trial.

    • The right to be a part of regional media.

    • The right to run and vote in elections, provided that they are a citizen.

    • The right to personal privacy.

Article VIII - Elections
  • Section I - Elections shall be held for the Senate, the House and the Prime Ministry and the Presidency.

  • Section II - Elections for the House shall be every two months; elections for the Senate, Prime Ministry and Presidency shall be scheduled for every four months, regardless of if a snap election takes place.

  • Section III - The Senate shall have the authority to call a snap election, with two thirds of the chamber's support.

  • Section IV - Voting for President and Prime Minister shall be held using the Immediate Runoff Voting (Alternate Vote) system. Voting for the House of Commons and Senate shall be held using the Singular Transferable Vote system. Each political party with 5 or more registered members who are Thaecian citizens shall be allowed to register to be added to the ballot. Independents who are Thaecian citizens shall be allowed to register to be added to the ballot. The Electoral Commissioner shall be given the task of organising this process.

  • Section V - If there is no clear successor (e.g. a deputy), an snap election shall be held for elected posts.

  • Section VI - Should a Congressperson be recalled or resign, a Snap Election shall be held to fill the vacant seat.


Read factbook


Author: Brototh
Sponsor: Marvinville, Brototh

In BOLD is the amendment to the Constitution, in STRIKE is what is removed
N|B (Edit): Removed italic bold, as the 'amended' version passed the Senate.


Amend Article I, Section III of the Constitution to read as follows:

Section III - The President shall serve as elected WA delegate representing the Region in the World Assembly. The president shall be the Head of State of Thaecia, observing only the Powers of the Prime Minister, when the office of the Prime Minister is vacant. If the President is a WA-Waivered nation, they must select a WA citizen to act as Vice President for them, who will assume their role of representing the Region in the World Assembly.

Sub-section I - A hopeful WA-Waivered Citizen running for President must select a WA Vice President alongside them to run on a ticket with them. If they do not select a Vice President by the election, they will be disqualified.

Sub-section I II - The President or nominated Vice President has the authority to represent the region as a whole for matters relating to the World Assembly.

Sub-section II III - If a citizen acquires more endorsements than the President or nominated Vice President, they may be ejected to preserve the power of the President or Vice President to be the WA Delegate.

Sub-section III IV - The President or nominated Vice President, as WA delegate, has the power to sponsor and propose World Assembly legislation.

Sub-section V- If the nominated Vice President resigns, the President must then select a new Vice President. Once the President has selected a new Vice President, they must go to a regional confirmation vote. If they achieve a simple majority, they will become the Vice President, if not, the President must select a new Vice President.

Sub-section VI - If the WA-Waivered President fails to select a new Vice President within 5 days, this will be grounds for impeachment, and if the WA-Waivered President's choice of Vice President is rejected three times consecutively, this will trigger an immediate snap election for the position of President.

Amend Article I, Section VIII of the Constitution to also contain as follows:

Sub-section I - The nominated Vice President can be impeached when the Senate acknowledges the impeachable offences as is decreed by law, this by a two third majority vote in the Senate, followed by a two third majority vote in the House to impeach the Vice President from office, following an immediate confirmation vote for whomever the WA Waivered President selects as their new Vice President. Whereas the Prime Minister shall observe in limited capacity the duties of the Vice President in sede vacante.

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I guess that's a good point we hadn't considered, if an individual is to become President you would expect him to have Thaecia as his main focus, with his own World Assembly nation residing here. Though at the same time, an argument could be made that the fact an individual doesn't have their WA in Thaecia doesn't necessarily mean his Thaecian nation isn't his main nation, in fact until recently my WA was in a region I was WA Delegate just because I wanted to prevent that region from being raided (WA is back at this nation now), however Cerdenia was still my main, nothing was actually going on in that region and the WA was moved specifically just to protect it.

Either way, it's a good point you bring up.

Pap sculgief, The Bigtopia, Dendrobium, and Marvinville

Dendrobium

Cerdenia wrote:I guess that's a good point we hadn't considered, if an individual is to become President you would expect him to have Thaecia as his main focus, with his own World Assembly nation residing here. Though at the same time, an argument could be made that the fact an individual doesn't have their WA in Thaecia doesn't necessarily mean his Thaecian nation isn't his main nation, in fact until recently my WA was in a region I was WA Delegate just because I wanted to prevent that region from being raided (WA is back at this nation now), however Cerdenia was still my main, nothing was actually going on in that region and the WA was moved specifically just to protect it.

Either way, it's a good point you bring up.

Thank you, I think your example shows the uncertainty of this scenario; while you obviously knew and stated Thaecia was your main focus, which I don't doubt, others could never have been sure of that. In the case of a President, there must always be complete transparancy, while ambigouity about things such as loyalty and priority should be avoided.

Dendrobium wrote:

This post is in response to the upcoming referendum.

The referendum to be held soon seeks to expand the Constitution; which is a good thing, as it should always be kept up with the latest changes or challenges our lovely Thaecia faces. However, there are some questionable points to this to be voted on expansion that should be brought to light.
First, this change to the Constitution states that “If the President is a WA-Waivered nation, they must select a WA citizen to act as Vice President for them, who will assume their role of representing the Region in the World Assembly.” Which would make sense, if not for other parts already in the Constitution that may bring up debate on the legitimacy of such scenario. Article VI and VII of the existing Constitution read that only citizens have the right to run for office and be elected legally; and to be a citizen, one must be a member of the Word Assembly.
That on its own could have potentially made the expansion illegitimate or even illegal if it were not for something explained in detail in the previously mentioned Article VI on citizenship; “This requirement may be bypassed by […] a telegram from a nation in the WA confirming the non-WA resident is a puppet of the WA nation elsewhere. The waiver may also be revoked […].”. By law, an elected official can be legal while not being part of the WA, which in the case of “lower” positions, such as MP, Senator or part of a committee, positions where membership of the WA is nearly, if not, unimportant, should not be a problem. Once this reaches, debatably, one of, if not the, most important position in Thaecia, the Presidency, a debate on moral legitimacy, besides legal legitimacy, rises.
Can we, as residents and citizens, be sure our elected President will fully act with the importance of Thaecia and all those who reside in it in mind, when it is perfectly possible said President is no more than a puppet state or secondary account of another nation in another region? When we vote for someone, do we not want them to represent and care for those who they are elected to represent and care for? Is such thing truly possible when the President (no less!) is no member of the WA, and therefore cannot be a citizen of Thaecia without personal and direct interference of the highest possible officials in our region? Such questions are worth thinking of.

Note that this reactionary post is not an attack on the authors of this Amendment, but simply a way of sparking an inevitable debate on not just legal, but firstly a moral debate on the legitimacy of the one whose most important job is to represent Thaecia before the World Assembly and lead or great region. That is why no nations are mentioned in this post which is meant to bring up a debate, not to tell residents how to vote. Thank you for your patience and stay healthy.



THIRD CONSTITUTION OF THAECIA

Article I - The Executive Branch
  • Section I - The Executive branch of government, also known as the Cabinet, shall be composed of the Prime Minister, and its Ministers, as decreed by law or as nominated by the Prime Minister and appointed by a confirmation vote by the House of Commons; the Cabinet shall at least be composed of a Minister tasked with Foreign Affairs, a Minister tasked with Domestic Affairs, and a Minister tasked with Legal Affairs.

  • Section II - A Minister can be dismissed through unilateral dismissal by the Prime Minister, or through a vote of no confidence by the House of Commons. The Prime Minister shall also have all regional government powers: Appearance, Border Control, Communications, Embassies and Polls. They shall be able to veto legislation which has not received a two thirds majority and has not been enshrined in law for fifteen days.

  • Section III - The President shall serve as elected WA delegate representing the Region in the World Assembly. The president shall be the Head of State of Thaecia, observing only the Powers of the Prime Minister, when the office of the Prime Minister is vacant.

    • Sub-section I - The President has the authority to represent the region as a whole for matters relating to the World Assembly.

    • Sub-section II - If a citizen acquires more endorsements than the President, they may be ejected to preserve the power of the President to be the WA Delegate.

    • Sub-section III - The President, as WA delegate, has the power to sponsor and propose World Assembly legislation.

  • Section IV - The President may call for a snap election in the Upper or Lower Chambers of Congress with the consensus of Cabinet Ministers. Should no majority be found 10 days after an election, the President shall also be allowed to extend the deadline for the formation of a majority coalition in the Senate or House of Commons by up to a maximum of 10 days if no coalition can be formed in time. When this deadline is reached, a snap election shall be held.

    • Sub-section I - A snap election cannot be held when a blocking majority overrides the President and Cabinet decision in a two third majority in both chambers of Congress.

  • Section V - The President has the legal power to ban in the event of a regional emergency. The Cabinet must give its consent to the President before this action is taken. The Court has the power to overturn this decision, provided there was no regional emergency.

  • Section VI - The Roleplay Secretary shall serve as Head of Roleplay and run the Roleplay. They shall be exempt from the cabinet. The Prime Minister reserves the right to appoint and fire the Roleplay Secretary. After appointed the Roleplay Secretary shall then go to a confirmation vote within the Thaecian Roleplay, organised by the Electoral Commissioner. Only thaecian citizens who have been officially roleplayers as per the procedures of the Roleplay Secretary shall be allowed to vote on this confirmation vote. Should a Roleplay Secretary confirmation vote occur during an RP reset, those who were in the Roleplay at the point of reset shall have the right to vote.

  • Section VII - The Prime Minister and any other ministers the Prime Minister delegates the power to have the power to sign inter-regional pacts and treaties and the Prime Minister has the power to withdraw from inter-regional pacts and treaties once they've been ratified. Both these actions require Congressional approval in the form of a simple majority vote in the Senate.

  • Section VIII - The President can be impeached when the Senate acknowledges the impeachable offenses as is decreed by law, this by a two third majority vote in the senate, followed by a two third majority vote in the House to impeach the President from office, following immediate election for the vacant seat of the Presidency. Whereas the Prime Minister shall observe in limited capacity the duties of the President in sede vacante.

  • Section IX - The Prime Minister can only be impeached by a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister starting in the House of Commons with a two third majority vote, followed by a confirmation vote in the Senate by simple majority. The President shall have the authority to veto the confirmation vote in the Senate, unless a two third majority of senate support was present. A successful vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister shall result in an immediate organisation of election for the vacant seat; while in time of sede vacante the clear successor shall observe the duties of the Prime Minister.

Article II - The Legislative Branch

  • Section I - The Legislative branch of government, also known as congress, shall be a bicameral legislature. The lower chamber shall be called the House of Commons (also known as the Commons or simply the House) and shall consist of at least seven members of parliament (MPs). The upper chamber shall be called the Senate and shall consist of at least 5 senators. In order to expand the number of seats in either house, two thirds of both chambers and the region, in the form of a referendum, must approve of the expansion. The expansion must always result in an odd number of seats in a chamber.

  • Section II - Any bill drafted and proposed by one of the Chambers of Congress must achieve a majority of the chamber's support, before it can go to the other chamber of Congress where it needs to reach the same majority. If it fails to reach a majority in the second chamber, it may be sent back to the first chamber to be amended or scrapped. If it does command support of the second chamber, it will become law.

    • Sub-Section I - A majority shall be defined as:

      1. a simple majority: a majority of at least 50%+1 votes in favour, where abstention will not be counted as a vote.

      2. a two third majority: a majority of at least two thirds of votes in favour, where abstention will not be counted as a vote.

  • Section III - Each chamber will be led by one senator/MP in the caucus of the ruling coalition, where the ruling coalition is the coalition whose sum of the number of seats of the parties in the coalition is greater than half of the total number of seats in that chamber. The Speaker of the House and the Chairman of the Senate shall have the power to determine their chamber's agenda. Both roles are chosen by a simple majority vote by the members of the respective chambers. Parties can only put forward one candidate for the chambers leadership elections. In the event in which no candidate is tied, but at the same time no candidate received more than 50% of the votes, a run-off is held between the two candidate who received the most votes. All chamber leadership elections shall be officiated by the Electoral Commissioner.

  • Section IV - The Leadership of one of the Chambers of Congress can be changed by a 'constructive vote of no confidence' in the Speaker or Chairperson. The constructive motion can be initiated with the support of at least one third of members of a chamber. The debate and voting on the motion shall be presided by the electoral commissioner. The motion must receive a simple majority of the chamber's support, and at least two third of members must have cast a vote. A constructive vote of no-confidence shall be capped at one every 60 days for the Senate, and one every 30 days for the House of Commons.

    • Sub-section I - a constructive vote of no confidence: a motion where a replacement (coalition) for a certain function is already present and nominated in the motion. It fuses both the 'vote of no confidence' as the 'election' afterwards in one vote. When both motions require the same type of majority.

Article III - The Judicial Branch
  • Section I - The Judicial Branch will be composed of the High Court, which itself will be composed of three justices: the chief justice and two associate justices.

    • Sub-section I - Justices shall be nominated by the PM following a Confirmation vote in the Senate with a majority vote. Amongst themselves they shall elect one Chief Justice in Conclave.

    • Sub-section II - The court is under no obligation to accept every case which is filed before it.

    • Sub-section III - The court can review criminal charges - where a law has been violated, civil lawsuits - where one resident sues another, or constitutional challenges - where a law or action violates a portion of this document. The court is the only body which can approve a revocation of citizenship.

    • Sub-section IV - The justices on the court shall give their opinions on a case, and the opinion (for example, whether a bill is constitutional or not) with the most votes from the justices shall be the ruling. The opinion considered of the highest quality by the justices will be the majority opinion, and the justices which support it will be listed as assenting justices; the justices who disagree shall be listed as dissenting justices.

    • Sub-section V - Justices have no term limits and their tenures end when they are impeached or resign.

    • Sub-section VI - The Court has the power to unban someone.

  • Section II - If a Justice ceases to exist, they lose their Justice position. If they are revived, they may be nominated again, but do not automatically regain their position as Justice.

  • Section III - The Legislature shall be entitled to create more judicial courts or chambers, these courts created by law shall be lower courts, of which the High Court shall be deemed as the supreme judicial authority.

Article IV - Constitutional Amendments
  • Section I - The Constitution can be amended by a bill originating in the Senate or the House. The legislation must receive two thirds support in each chamber. Afterwards, the amendment shall go to a regional vote where 3/5ths approval must be achieved.

Article V - Supremacy
  • Section I - The Constitution is bears the greatest legal authority in the region - all legislation, treaties, et cetera shall be considered less powerful and if they violate this constitution, they should be struck down by the High Court.

Article VI - Citizenship
  • To be a citizen, residents must be in the World Assembly (WA). This requirement may be bypassed by sending the Prime Minister, President or Home Affairs Minister a telegram from a nation in the WA confirming the non-WA resident is a puppet of the WA nation elsewhere. The waiver may also be revoked by the Justice Ministry, which can be challenged in court if the person whose waiver was revoked feels it was wrong or unjust. One person may have no more than 1 nation as a citizen in this region.

Article VII - Rights
  • Section I - All residents are guaranteed the following liberties without government interference:

    • The right to speak their mind, provided this does not breach NS rules.

    • The right to form or join a political party.

    • The right to challenge the government, by means such as no confidence votes and court cases.

    • The right to run for public office, provided they are citizens.

    • The right to a due process and a fair and free trial.

    • The right to be a part of regional media.

    • The right to run and vote in elections, provided that they are a citizen.

    • The right to personal privacy.

Article VIII - Elections
  • Section I - Elections shall be held for the Senate, the House and the Prime Ministry and the Presidency.

  • Section II - Elections for the House shall be every two months; elections for the Senate, Prime Ministry and Presidency shall be scheduled for every four months, regardless of if a snap election takes place.

  • Section III - The Senate shall have the authority to call a snap election, with two thirds of the chamber's support.

  • Section IV - Voting for President and Prime Minister shall be held using the Immediate Runoff Voting (Alternate Vote) system. Voting for the House of Commons and Senate shall be held using the Singular Transferable Vote system. Each political party with 5 or more registered members who are Thaecian citizens shall be allowed to register to be added to the ballot. Independents who are Thaecian citizens shall be allowed to register to be added to the ballot. The Electoral Commissioner shall be given the task of organising this process.

  • Section V - If there is no clear successor (e.g. a deputy), an snap election shall be held for elected posts.

  • Section VI - Should a Congressperson be recalled or resign, a Snap Election shall be held to fill the vacant seat.


Read factbook


Author: Brototh
Sponsor: Marvinville, Brototh

In BOLD is the amendment to the Constitution, in STRIKE is what is removed
N|B (Edit): Removed italic bold, as the 'amended' version passed the Senate.


Amend Article I, Section III of the Constitution to read as follows:

Section III - The President shall serve as elected WA delegate representing the Region in the World Assembly. The president shall be the Head of State of Thaecia, observing only the Powers of the Prime Minister, when the office of the Prime Minister is vacant. If the President is a WA-Waivered nation, they must select a WA citizen to act as Vice President for them, who will assume their role of representing the Region in the World Assembly.

Sub-section I - A hopeful WA-Waivered Citizen running for President must select a WA Vice President alongside them to run on a ticket with them. If they do not select a Vice President by the election, they will be disqualified.

Sub-section I II - The President or nominated Vice President has the authority to represent the region as a whole for matters relating to the World Assembly.

Sub-section II III - If a citizen acquires more endorsements than the President or nominated Vice President, they may be ejected to preserve the power of the President or Vice President to be the WA Delegate.

Sub-section III IV - The President or nominated Vice President, as WA delegate, has the power to sponsor and propose World Assembly legislation.

Sub-section V- If the nominated Vice President resigns, the President must then select a new Vice President. Once the President has selected a new Vice President, they must go to a regional confirmation vote. If they achieve a simple majority, they will become the Vice President, if not, the President must select a new Vice President.

Sub-section VI - If the WA-Waivered President fails to select a new Vice President within 5 days, this will be grounds for impeachment, and if the WA-Waivered President's choice of Vice President is rejected three times consecutively, this will trigger an immediate snap election for the position of President.

Amend Article I, Section VIII of the Constitution to also contain as follows:

Sub-section I - The nominated Vice President can be impeached when the Senate acknowledges the impeachable offences as is decreed by law, this by a two third majority vote in the Senate, followed by a two third majority vote in the House to impeach the Vice President from office, following an immediate confirmation vote for whomever the WA Waivered President selects as their new Vice President. Whereas the Prime Minister shall observe in limited capacity the duties of the Vice President in sede vacante.

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Wavered citizens shouldn't be treated as second class just because their WA nation isn't in Thaecia. There are multiple reasons why a citizen might not have their Thaecian nation join the World Assembly. One reason could be that they don't want to be involved in the WA at all so they just maintain a WA account in a random feeder region which they never use, but just have it to be eligible for Thaecian citizenship. If a wavered nation ever was a Presidential candidate, we could ask them to explain why they haven't joined the WA with their Thaecian nation and judge their reasoning to help us determine whether or not to vote for them. I imagine that in many cases a wavered nation would struggle to justify their position compared to a non-wavered opponent. However, this is for the voters to decide, not the Constitution.

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Fishergate wrote:Wavered citizens shouldn't be treated as second class just because their WA nation isn't in Thaecia. There are multiple reasons why a citizen might not have their Thaecian nation join the World Assembly. One reason could be that they don't want to be involved in the WA at all so they just maintain a WA account in a random feeder region which they never use, but just have it to be eligible for Thaecian citizenship. If a wavered nation ever was a Presidential candidate, we could ask them to explain why they haven't joined the WA with their Thaecian nation and judge their reasoning to help us determine whether or not to vote for them. I imagine that in many cases a wavered nation would struggle to justify their position compared to a non-wavered opponent. However, this is for the voters to decide, not the Constitution.

I think there is a small misunderstanding, my point was not to call for the degration of people with WA-membership accounts in other regions, but simply to, as you stated, explain themselves and give a legitimate reasoning for it. Obviously there can be many reasons, but when one runs for the position of President I would call for reassurance that Thaecia will be thier main focus, which is understandable I hope, since it is after all a very important position.

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Titanne wrote:Don't you want to be a villain? I can make that happen...

Ohh, you know me so well.

As someone who has held the office of President for three terms, I know the challenges and rewards that come with the position, and I'd like to put my position out there on the recently proposed constitutional amendment.

If you want to be the region's President/WA Delegate, then you need to be committed and that starts out by having your WA nation in the region you want to lead and represent in the WA. This is not about expecting a high standard of excellence from our WA Delegate, it is the simplest of commitments one can make to the region and its 240 WA members. Also, by waiving the WA requirement for the WA Delegate (sounds stupefying, I know), you're also opening up a pandora's box to conflicts of interest where you could literally have someone control our Delegacy along with that of another region using their actual WA nation. This will literally open up the way for those who want to take advantage of our WA voting power with no regard for the region itself. There is little benefit for anyone to gain out of this. At best, this is a well intentioned proposal that is based on idealism but not grounded in reality of how this game, and especially how WA representation, works. At worse, this is an attempt to open up the Presidency to those who seek to influence Thaecian politics without showing the least bit of commitment to the region.

For those reasons, I urge a vote of Nay/Against/No on the upcoming vote regarding this.

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Racism against non-WA citizens on my RMB? 🤔

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Korsinia wrote:Racism against non-WA citizens on my RMB? 🤔

Non-WA citizens are awesome <3 But to be our WA Delegate, you need to be extra awesome and be a member of the WA :P

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Xernon wrote:Non-WA citizens are awesome <3 But to be our WA Delegate, you need to be extra awesome and be a member of the WA :P

Rip Snowflame

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Korsinia wrote:Racism against non-WA citizens on my RMB? 🤔

It’s more likely than you think; free PC check?

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Xernon wrote:As someone who has held the office of President for three terms, I know the challenges and rewards that come with the position, and I'd like to put my position out there on the recently proposed constitutional amendment.

If you want to be the region's President/WA Delegate, then you need to be committed and that starts out by having your WA nation in the region you want to lead and represent in the WA. This is not about expecting a high standard of excellence from our WA Delegate, it is the simplest of commitments one can make to the region and its 240 WA members. Also, by waiving the WA requirement for the WA Delegate (sounds stupefying, I know), you're also opening up a pandora's box to conflicts of interest where you could literally have someone control our Delegacy along with that of another region using their actual WA nation. This will literally open up the way for those who want to take advantage of our WA voting power with no regard for the region itself. There is little benefit for anyone to gain out of this. At best, this is a well intentioned proposal that is based on idealism but not grounded in reality of how this game, and especially how WA representation, works. At worse, this is an attempt to open up the Presidency to those who seek to influence Thaecian politics without showing the least bit of commitment to the region.

For those reasons, I urge a vote of Nay/Against/No on the upcoming vote regarding this.

I fully agree with all of this. If you want to be the President, the delegacy is 75% of the job. You need to be able to fill that spot if you're gonna be president.

I will also be voting nay in the upcoming referendum.

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Korsinia wrote:Rip Snowflame

Lmao, I was planning on putting WA on this account when campaigning officially starts

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Hallo to all! I am Indian Genius, your Deputy CultMinister. This week, I present you a crossword. Answer me in DMs or Telegrams. Have a good day! This is an Avengers Crossword. There are many fans of Avengers in Thaecia, I guess. Answer this and you will be featured in the Theater of Thaecia World Factbook Entry and also Government of Thaecia website.

Down/Vertical: 1: The thing which is place after Infinity, and this is worn by Thanos
2:This is placed after "Doctor"
3:Stark invented this machine.

Across/Vertical: 1: This was made by mistake by Iron Man, it's in the name of one of the Avengers Movies.
2:This is placed before Stark
3:The one who could say his name only.

Thanks.

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Indian genius wrote:cm activity

Smh I'm only lacking one and I can't find it

Islonia wrote:Smh I'm only lacking one and I can't find it

Ooh I think I got it

Titanne wrote:Ooh I think I got it

I can't find what's Across no3 reeee

Islonia wrote:I can't find what's Across no3 reeee

Oh that one? Think for a bit, took me a while, but you’ll laugh when you figure it out.

Its moments like these where I'm happy that I binged the Marvel movies

Snowflame wrote:Its moments like these where I'm happy that I binged the Marvel movies

3 Down took me forever but I think I figured it out...

I’ve been meaning to binge, I’ll probably do a marathon once school lets out in a few weeks.

Hi so, I already posted this in one channel on discord, so that's why it's less filed as a campaign and more of a response, didn't feel like posting it again but as a campaign on discord but still wanted to put it out more, here's my thought's to especially Xernon's response to this amendment:

I'd like to express my disagreement with your campaign to vote nay here-- while I agree that the President should certainly be WA themselves and committed to the region, the bill is designed not to open the position up for lazy citizens who aren't properly committed to the region, it is designed to fix a problem shown by Cerdenia in the High Court some time ago.

"The President shall serve as elected WA delegate representing the Region in the World Assembly"
At the same time, one of the rights guaranteed under Article VII of the Constitution is:
"The right to run for public office, provided they are citizens."

The amendment is designed not to open the door to lazy, non-committed citizens of Thaecia, but instead to uphold the democratic right for all citizens of Thaecia to run for the position of President. Myself, Korsinia, and a few others agreed this is better than creating a system in which non-WAs cannot run for the position of President, as it may create some sort of "segregation" between WAs and WA-Waivers.
The amendment is, again, to uphold one of the basic rights in a democracy, being able to run for President no matter what kind of citizen you are.
I also hardly think someone who shows little commitment to the region would be elected, that's a very worst case scenario.

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Brototh wrote:Hi so, I already posted this in one channel on discord, so that's why it's less filed as a campaign and more of a response, didn't feel like posting it again but as a campaign on discord but still wanted to put it out more, here's my thought's to especially Xernon's response to this amendment:
I'd like to express my disagreement with your campaign to vote nay here-- while I agree that the President should certainly be WA themselves and committed to the region, the bill is designed not to open the position up for lazy citizens who aren't properly committed to the region, it is designed to fix a problem shown by Cerdenia in the High Court some time ago.

"The President shall serve as elected WA delegate representing the Region in the World Assembly"
At the same time, one of the rights guaranteed under Article VII of the Constitution is:
"The right to run for public office, provided they are citizens."

The amendment is designed not to open the door to lazy, non-committed citizens of Thaecia, but instead to uphold the democratic right for all citizens of Thaecia to run for the position of President. Myself, Korsinia, and a few others agreed this is better than creating a system in which non-WAs cannot run for the position of President, as it may create some sort of "segregation" between WAs and WA-Waivers.
The amendment is, again, to uphold one of the basic rights in a democracy, being able to run for President no matter what kind of citizen you are.
I also hardly think someone who shows little commitment to the region would be elected, that's a very worst case scenario.

What you're saying is fine had it applied to any other office. But for the office that is equivalent to WA Delegate, you need to be a member of the region's WA cadre. If you're not able to make that commitment, which is not asking for much, because again, you are wanting to representing the region's WA block, then don't run for the position. And I appreciate your response, Brototh, but you've skipped over a substantial part of my argument and left most points unaddressed, especially regarding conflict of interest.

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Xernon wrote:What you're saying is fine had it applied to any other office. But for the office that is equivalent to WA Delegate, you need to be a member of the region's WA cadre. If you're not able to make that commitment, which is not asking for much, because again, you are wanting to representing the region's WA block, then don't run for the position. And I appreciate your response, Brototh, but you've skipped over a substantial part of my argument and left most points unaddressed, especially regarding conflict of interest.

Yes. If you’re not planning on fulfilling the only thing the President really does , you shouldn’t be running for President.

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When you send a regionwide telegram and wake up to 6 new telegrams

What have I done?

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And I don't see anything wrong with the Constitutional clauses relating to the Presidency, for the record. It's perfectly normal to establish a general criteria for qualification for office and the narrow it down for specific offices. For example, in the US, you often need to be a citizen of a certain age to run for public office, but then you must also meet additional requirements (residency requirements, experience requirements, etc.) based on the office you're seeking.

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