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Tyranniaa wrote:

Man, I didn't read, but by the size of the texting I think everything you are saying is very dumb

In short I just said humanity and Morales are meanginless in the grand scheme of eternity, and that everything that has ever happened and will happen is die to random chance.

Soviet Federation of Eurasia and Tyranniaa

We are all philosophers now apparently.

Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, Tyranniaa, The Aranami Confederation, and 1 otherSPR Laurenburg

The Socialist Union State of Soviet Federation of Eurasia

In short I just said humanity and Morales are meanginless in the grand scheme of eternity, and that everything that has ever happened and will happen is die to random chance.

Try to respond to Volk, who I thought CTED but he is back(?)

Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, and Tyranniaa

We are all philosophers now apparently.

We always were.

Volksleben, Tyranniaa, and The Aranami Confederation

Godly sky

The Suddeutsches of Republic Of Ludwigsburg

I don’t why I am in a region with Greek philosophers but ok

Soviet Federation of Eurasia and Tyranniaa

WWIII will not be nuclear.

Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, and Tyranniaa

The Red Spectre of Sovetsya

WWIII will not be nuclear.

Good.

Soviet Federation of Eurasia and Tyranniaa

WWIII will not be nuclear.

Politicians are too scared to risk everything in such a manner. They know the risks. They've learned from the Cold War. And yet they still ignite conflict.

Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, and Tyranniaa

Tyranniaa

Soviet Federation of Eurasia

In short I just said humanity and Morales are meanginless in the grand scheme of eternity, and that everything that has ever happened and will happen is die to random chance.

I was right

The Socialist Union State of Soviet Federation of Eurasia

Jacob R M wrote:

Try to respond to Volk, who I thought CTED but he is back(?)

Haven't noticed it before, but hey, Volksleben, some folks consider you cte'd.

Volksleben

The Red Spectre of Sovetsya

Soviet Federation of Eurasia wrote:

Haven't noticed it before, but hey,

Volksleben, some folks consider you cte'd.

Uh no not really, I thought he CTE'd a while back, but that was Burgundu, who I think returned at this point.

Volksleben and Soviet Federation of Eurasia

The Socialist Union State of Soviet Federation of Eurasia

My stomach is disagreeing with me right now. That's nice.

Volksleben and Soviet Federation of Eurasia

The United Socialist Republic of The Aranami Confederation

Jacob R M wrote:

Uh no not really, I thought he CTE'd a while back, but that was Burgundu, who I think returned at this point.

Oh. Understandable.

Volksleben and Tyranniaa

The United Socialist Republic of The Aranami Confederation

We are all philosophers now apparently.

Soyuz new nations: "Wait, it's all philosophers?"

RMB vets: "Always has been."

Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, and Tyranniaa

The Socialist Union State of Soviet Federation of Eurasia

Soviet Federation of Eurasia wrote:

We always were.

Lmao didn't see this quote until after I posted :/

Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, and Tyranniaa

The United Socialist States of Union of Soviet State Republics

The Aranami Confederation wrote:

Lmao didn't see this quote until after I posted :/

Lol

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Volksleben wrote:

Uhm. I'd not put it exactly like that, but why not...

Uhm... Morality is not just a thing that can be discarded that easily. Of course, it a product of the social relations, that is constantly subjective to changes and has been changing for a lot of times. This might have been driving some to moral pluralism and moral relativism.
Ethics is not a simple descriptive science, it doesn't simply state the moral principles of different times, but rather normalizes and gives a critical, usually politically-biased analysis of these. Marxist ethics, seeing the constant systematic changes in the morality, doesn't allow subjectivism and highhandedness in analysis of it - for ethics that doesn't help people get better, kinder, is just as useless as a medicine that doesn't heal. Marxist ethics overcomes the one-sidedness of normative ethics and scientism, striving towards correctly applying the scientific method for the purpose of finding the moral ideal.
Here we come to the communist morality, the morality of collectivism and humanism. We, the communists, should be dangerous to the capitalists, capitalist philistines should fear us - us, the demolition team of their world limited to animal instinct of accumulation and consumption, of their morality limited to the law of the jungle. We should negate capitalism, negate bourgeois morality - to upheave, liberate the humankind in a democratic revolution.
Communists do not "preach" any morality indeed. Marx and Lenin understood that both egoism and selflessness can be the ways of the individual's self-expression, and they agree that individualism was quite progressive once, on the eve of capitalism. But today, during imperialism (the highest stage of capitalism), individualist morality and the rule of private property in the economy serve as grounds for the class of haute capitalists that keep exploiting and undernourishing the workers in basically wage-slave conditions. This leads to the extremely high level of alienation of personality and atomization of the society, so the morality starts appearing like something external to the individual, something that depends on the individual, leading to the destruction of morality itself.
Proletarians are the way out of the capitalist trap, for they are paving the road towards the society of the future. Their fight for their own social and economic well-being finds its grounds in the morality of collectivism and humanism - "solidarity forever" "just because he's human", it has communist tendencies from the very beginning. The communists, the vanguard, should only help the proletarians understand this and lead them out of the simple fight for "improving capitalism".

The thing is, morality as one of the concrete forms of social consciousness appeared long before the classes emerged. During the age of exploitation and alienation, systems of moral values usually corresponded to the socioeconomic order - slaver morality, feudal morality, capitalist morality, etc. The emerging morality of the ruling class was becoming the humankind's morality, no matter how immoral it may seem from, well, "the other perspective."
Thus, the communist morality becomes the qualitatively higher return to the classless morality that existed before the age of exploitation and alienation.

Evolution gives a reason for why people have emotions though. Human emotions are derivative of animal emotions, that had been developed as the human beings developed as deeply social and practically active, productive creatures. They evolutionary appeared from the simplest evolutionary processes, as one could already notice, during and in close connection to the development of the humanity as a productive species, leading to the creation of the human civilization and human culture.

I will just repost my text of wall that I've previously sent to some other dude. With more explanations added.
Have you tried researching dialectics?

You really should read Ilyenkov.

I'd not say that it is the nature of the cosmos to be chaos and disorder. If so, the matter, the space dust would remain such after the Big Bang, not organize into the more complex and interconnected ordered systems - including the society, the most complex form of matter. But in the end, everything will die indeed. Destruction is inevitable in the course of development. Ilyenkov in his "Cosmology of the Spirit" assumed that the inevitable thermal death of the universe will be averted by the scientifically advanced race producing the new Big Bang.

In the end, nature strives to optimize, bring more order, and curve corners. Simply because it is more efficient. Otherwise, we would see no spheric bubbles, gracious animals, unneeded organs withering away, etc.

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"This logic, regularity of movement - as self-movement - is development."
- V. Bosenko, "The General Theory of Development"

And movement of the matter is existence of the matter.
Just in case - if you see something as disorder or chaos, it may not be such. For example, a complex ecosystem of the untamed jungle is quite an order though. When something dies when it is supposed to - it is disorder. When the surrounding creatures benefit from such death - it is order. The Big Bang - an example of a large disorder that created a lot of order. Any progressive revolution - always disorder, yet it ends up in order unless suppressed, extinguished. Opposites interpenetrate.

I see no point in your edgy nihilism. Life is meaningless? Create a meaning - you are a human, you can create, find purpose in life. Be it a lifetime goal or some little happy things around there - you can fully enjoy it. Everything is nothing on the grand scale? So what? If so, then what's the point in worrying and get depressed about it?
"So what if this planet can possibly get completely burned to the roast by the nukes? There is certainly a lot of other sentient races out there in space, and they have all chances to achieve more than us. It is called historical optimism."
- M. Burik

"Everything that exists deserves to perish, only death is immortal."
- V. Bosenko, "The General Theory of Development"

The known Universe will inevitably die? Well, first - even if so, the highly developed matter has a lot of time to try finding ways to prevent this or adapt to this. And second - so what? How does this cancel any significance of the current events in your local sphere? Also, you will be long dead by then.

Would you care to explain these simple evolutionary processes? Cause from what I understand, nobody has a clue how life can form from non living chemicals.

Soviet Federation of Eurasia and Tyranniaa

Edited

Would you care to explain these simple evolutionary processes?

Emotions formed (we all know how it works - if it doesn't form, it dies; survival of the fittest) first as responses of the nervous systems to the objective reality, complementing and adjusting the actions, and feelings of creatures towards the most effective results. For example, danger leads to fear, fear gives adrenaline, and adrenaline is S P E E D. Well, a bit better reaction, temporary strength boost, thinner blood vessels, etc., everything needed to survive and overcome.
The human nervous system, as a result of homo sapiens being able to cooperate for survival, create the means of production and sensibly adjust nature for themselves, as a result of the creation of human society and civilization, started to deform due to these changes. Modern human beings are more social than biological, at this point.

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Cause from what I understand, nobody has a clue how life can form from non living chemicals.

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Dude, you got the whole biochem dept of our Marxist circle laughing.
RNA + fatty acids = a closed system able to self-replicate and consume, a cell. Both can be formed abiotically.

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Volksleben wrote:

Emotions formed (we all know how it works - if it doesn't form, it dies; survival of the fittest) first as responses of the nervous systems to the objective reality, complementing and adjusting the actions, and feelings of creatures towards the most effective results. For example, danger leads to fear, fear gives adrenaline, and adrenaline is S P E E D. Well, a bit better reaction, temporary strength boost, thinner blood vessels, etc., everything needed to survive and overcome.
The human nervous system, as a result of homo sapiens being able to cooperate for survival, create the means of production and sensibly adjust nature for themselves, as a result of the creation of human society and civilization, started to deform due to these changes. Modern human beings are more social than biological, at this point.

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Dude, you got the whole biochem dept of our Marxist circle laughing.
RNA + fatty acids = a closed system able to self-replicate and consume, a cell. Both can be formed abiotically.

Then how have we not been able to make life in a laboratory if it's that easy?

Soviet Federation of Eurasia and Tyranniaa

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Dear fellow, InterLeft friends of Soyuz,

On April 1st from 9pm UK time & 4pm Eastern Time, The Region That Has No Big Banks is hosting a Game’s Night.

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Dear all,

Apologies, due to unforeseen circumstances we've had to make a date change too the TRTHNBB games night.

This will now take place on Sunday 2nd April at from 8pm UK time & 3pm Eastern Time,

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TRTHNBB GAMES NIGHT: April 2nd!

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Join us from 8pm BST & 3pm EDT on Sunday April 2nd

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"Welcome to the ultimate TRTHNBB Lore quiz! This quiz will test your knowledge of all things related to your favourite Bankless region - from its fascinating, yet very strange nations. Join in to reminisce on the intricate backstories these wonderful nations hold.

Whether you're a long term resident or a newcomer to the TRTHNBB universe, this quiz is sure to challenge and entertain you. So get ready to dive into the lore and see how much you really know about your beloved region!"

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Volksleben, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, Tyranniaa, and Channa Marches

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New United Common-lands wrote:

Dear all,

Apologies, due to unforeseen circumstances we've had to make a date change too the TRTHNBB games night.

This will now take place on Sunday 2nd April at from 8pm UK time & 3pm Eastern Time,

We have new timings;
1. The Ultimate TRTHNBB Lore Quiz: 8pm - 9pm
2. Chess Competition: 9pm - 10pm - https://lichess.org/tournament/o2V0mmkH Sign up here (password: nobanks)
3. Skribbl.io: 10pm - 10:30pm
4. Among Us: 10:30pm onwards

TRTHNBB GAMES NIGHT: April 2nd!

Join us from 8pm BST & 3pm EDT on Sunday April 2nd

Quiz and Game Night timings

All timings based on British Summer Time, Link check here to convert to your time zone.

1. The Ultimate TRTHNBB Lore Quiz: 8pm - 9pm

"Welcome to the ultimate TRTHNBB Lore quiz! This quiz will test your knowledge of all things related to your favourite Bankless region - from its fascinating, yet very strange nations. Join in to reminisce on the intricate backstories these wonderful nations hold.

Whether you're a long term resident or a newcomer to the TRTHNBB universe, this quiz is sure to challenge and entertain you. So get ready to dive into the lore and see how much you really know about your beloved region!"

2. Chess Competition : 9pm - 10pm - Link

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3. Skribbl.io: 10pm - 10:30pm
4. Among Us: 10:30pm onwards

all hosted via TRTHNBB's discord & RMB

Contact New United Common-lands with any questions

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I look forward to seeing you all April 2nd!

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Hello NUCLS

Volksleben, New United Common-lands, Soviet Federation of Eurasia, and Tyranniaa

The Soviet Socialist Republic of Volksleben

1 year 37 days ago

Edited

Then how have we not been able to make life in a laboratory if it's that easy?

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1) This spontaneous process took millions of years to happen, so that wasn't that easy.
2) We are slowly getting more and more able to. Scientists are on their way to a full understanding of the ways to synthesize the desired chemical bonds, successfully, so the result is guaranteed. When we finally synthesize RNA, we synthesize life.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

http://www.pnas.org/content/72/1/162.full.pdf

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08013

https://chemistry-europe.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/chem.201503906

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1714896114

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ast.2022.0027

You could just google it at this point.

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Tyranniaa

1 year 37 days ago