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Bonne Année!

Asgareth, Friendly island, and Harren island

Welp
Enfaru CTE'd again.
I assume Trevor killed her
Val you're now in charge (in so far as executive powers are now yours... lord help us).

But now, question time for Chargren (and arguably the rest of the region): Last time Enfaru CTE'd, we had a regional password, following a poll. Do those results carry over? If so, should a password be put up asap? Or do we need a new poll, most likely once the current presidential poll has finished?

Edit: Also, anyone not currently endorsing Valyrien better start endorsing her. (You'll need to be a member of the W.A.)

Asgareth wrote:Welp
Enfaru CTE'd again.
I assume Trevor killed her
Val you're now in charge (in so far as executive powers are now yours... lord help us).

But now, question time for Chargren (and arguably the rest of the region): Last time Enfaru CTE'd, we had a regional password, following a poll. Do those results carry over? If so, should a password be put up asap? Or do we need a new poll, most likely once the current presidential poll has finished?

Edit: Also, anyone not currently endorsing Valyrien better start endorsing her. (You'll need to be a member of the W.A.)

The Supreme Leader is dead, long live the Supreme Leader!

Post self-deleted by Friendly island.

Journey collective

Hi, I'm Friendly's puppet.

The leader is dead, long live the leader!

Skjoldur

Attention, citizens of the Sovereign Charter

As we're sure we've all seen, our Beloved Founder has CTE'd. Thus, we have dug out the emergency plans from the last time this happened, and for now, here's the deal:

- We have password-protected the region temporarily as a security measure. There will be a regional poll asking residents if they want to continue keeping it password-protected, or if it should be removed.

- If it is decided to keep the password, a rousing discussion shall be scheduled about how to handle the distribution of the password and entry
requirements. Citizens may voice opinions and make suggestions in an open forum (with less than two days turnaround time for responses, hopefully).

- For now, everyone please feel free to voice opinions about what steps could be taken next. There's still three days left in the presidential poll, so there's some time for everyone to freak out publicly voice their opinions here. Let us know what you think of the situation and what you want to see happen moving forward.

Chargren
Chief Justice of the Sovereign Charter

Chargren wrote:Attention, citizens of the Sovereign Charter

As we're sure we've all seen, our Beloved Founder has CTE'd. Thus, we have dug out the emergency plans from the last time this happened, and for now, here's the deal:

- We have password-protected the region temporarily as a security measure. There will be a regional poll asking residents if they want to continue keeping it password-protected, or if it should be removed.

Well done, Chief!

TG me if something needs to be done, whatever I can do now.

So to begin with, thank you Chargren for implementing the password temporarily. The region is securer for it. And Val, remember with great power comes great responsibility. That's right, you're in charge of paying the bar tab.

Alright so I guess I'll get the ball rolling on this entire conversation. I'd like to start with a small retraction - the previous poll strongly voted against a password, not for it as I incorrectly implied. The only time a password was put in place, was immediately following Enfaru's CTE'ing.

With that said, let's move to the present. and talk about whether we need/want a password on a more permanent basis. I'll preface this by stating I voted against a password the last time Enfaru CTE'd. However, I now support the implementation of a password.

Truthfully, the only reason I can see to keep the region open is to assist with recruiting. The thing is, none of us have gone on serious recruiting rampages in months. The last person to do so was in fact Enfaru and that was back in September! If we aren't recruiting, there really isn't a need to keep the region open. Sure, a few returning members may need to hang around until someone can give them the password/Enfaru hopefully returns, but it's a small price to pay for the safety of the region.

The obvious benefit of a password is to prevent raids. We were lucky last time that defenders saw the raid as it unfolded, and were able to move in fast enough. However we may not be so lucky next time. There is nothing stopping raiders succeeding, unless we have a password in place. Maybe it is best for the region to take its security into its own hands, rather than hope defenders can do what they do best.

Let's also not forget how few W.A. members there really are in the region. Valyrien (and myself) currently have 5 endorsements. It's not a big ask for raiders to beat that, whatsoever, and in so doing absorb executive powers. If you're not a member of the W.A. please do consider joining.

The Charter has been around for almost 5 years! If raiders get their hands on this region, we could lose 5 years of history. It's not a risk worth taking in my opinion.

With all this in mind, I believe it a password is a necessity for the region, until Enfaru returns. (And she must return, because I have a feeling Val won't pay the bar tab and I don't want to be the one that has to go tell Trevor)

Nouvel Acadie and Harren island

Asgareth wrote:

Truthfully, the only reason I can see to keep the region open is to assist with recruiting. The thing is, none of us have gone on serious recruiting rampages in months. The last person to do so was in fact Enfaru and that was back in September! If we aren't recruiting, there really isn't a need to keep the region open. Sure, a few returning members may need to hang around until someone can give them the password/Enfaru hopefully returns, but it's a small price to pay for the safety of the region.

I agree with your reasoning and with the password. The quoted paragraph does raise some interesting questions.

Just to clarify and expand on it: Both Enfi and I used telegrams back in September (I had a boatload of stamps I had purchased, and used them up in the process.) We also tag-teamed on the "Find-A-Region" thread.

My gut tells me that individually contacting players seeking active RP and inviting them to the Region may have more of a pay-back than the mass telegrams. However, we do have a younger generation of active members - Harren, Friendly Islands, and back a bit further, the goblins and the sons of caligula..ahem....it would be instructive to know how *any* of you "found" the Charter (if you remember), because that will help inform a more effective recruiting program going forward.

All of which is important, because knowing how people find us enables us to know how to best supply a password in a safe manner.

Myraxia, Asgareth, and Harren island

It is unfortunate that the region was not set up with a regional puppet as the head of the region. It might be worth asking Enfi when she returns to consider either regionalizing that account or at least entrusting its password to someone like Chargren.

In the meantime, I support a temporary password but question the long-term effects of a password protected region. I know personally, I was recruited from mass telegrams back in the day and would hate to see our region move away from that. What has always struck me as the Charter's greatest asset is its flexibility with goblins, Romans, and ethereal people all inhabiting the same space. Long-term passwords give the charter an air of exclusivity and places the burden of entry and potential rejection on the person considering the region. I also don't know how much safer that would truly make us as a raider simply needs to set up a puppet and pass the entry test and the region is compromised. If we allow ourselves to get too paranoid I fear the population of this region will continue to dwindle and face a death worse than a raid. If we are facing regional collapse, I would much rather prefer a migration to a new region with a stronger security system in place, that is if Enfi for some reason never returns.

Myraxia

Nouvel Acadie wrote: the sons of caligula..ahem

What an odd way to refer to Skjoldur...

And I was recruited because I was in the morning nursery group not the afternoon one. ;)

Nouvel Acadie wrote:Snip

None of the specified, but Rome (and to my knowledge Harren) were both recruited via friends. This method has been utilised throughout the Charter; just consider the number of members, both past and present, who link back to Myraxia either directly or indirectly.

Mass telegramming certainly has its place, particularly during the busier parts of the year (summer). But creating a targeted recruiting strategy is a good idea, and one I fully support.

North Covenant wrote:Snip

Some very good points North. In terms of the long-term effects, your thoughts echo many of my own. I was going to mention whether we ought to plan a long term contingency, but opted against including it so it didn't look like I was jumping the gun. I'm dead against maintaining the password forever, but do believe we ought to keep it in place for some time.

Now of course, migrating from the region carries its own problems. We will lose 5 years of regional history, essentially overnight. This can be offset by someone archiving the RMB and other pages of interest), should the region believe it ought to. We're also going to have to rely on people proactively moving into the newly refounded region and not just moving elsewhere. This is only a minor concern, as the majority of us have been here for a substantial amount of time and are unlikely to move, but the lurkers may lead to another fall in numbers. A discussion regarding refounding isn't necessary at this point, though we ought to have a discussion regarding long term plans. Any attempt to refound ought not to be made for several months yet.

In terms of the effectiveness of the password, sure it doesn't completely prevent us from being targeted, but it is a worthwhile deterrent. If raiders are specifically gunning for us, then they'll get in. But it does help to prevent those that are just looking for easy targets as they'll just go for regions that don't use a password.

Romae in Perpetuum wrote:

And I was recruited because I was in the morning nursery group not the afternoon one. ;)

You and I both know the morning group was the best group.

Romae in Perpetuum and Harren island

Asgareth wrote:This method has been utilised throughout the Charter; just consider the number of members, both past and present, who link back to Myraxia either directly or indirectly.

You can take it back one step further (and simultaneously give Enfaru an aneurysm when she eventually returns) by pointing out that Iryllia and I were both introduced to NS by Belhorizon.

But yes, I appear to be at least indirectly responsible for a lot of you people.

Harren island

Friendly island

I found the region through the megathread, though what made me join was talking to folks in the discord.
A password locked region can seem a bit elitist, but if communication is still easy (outward facing discord link?) I don't think it's much of a hurdle.

Whoops. Fingers slipped.

Asgareth wrote:None of the specified, but Rome (and to my knowledge Harren) were both recruited via friends. This method has been utilised throughout the Charter; just consider the number of members, both past and present, who link back to Myraxia either directly or indirectly.

Mass telegramming certainly has its place, particularly during the busier parts of the year (summer). But creating a targeted recruiting strategy is a good idea, and one I fully support.

Some very good points North. In terms of the long-term effects, your thoughts echo many of my own. I was going to mention whether we ought to plan a long term contingency, but opted against including it so it didn't look like I was jumping the gun. I'm dead against maintaining the password forever, but do believe we ought to keep it in place for some time.

Now of course, migrating from the region carries its own problems. We will lose 5 years of regional history, essentially overnight. This can be offset by someone archiving the RMB and other pages of interest), should the region believe it ought to. We're also going to have to rely on people proactively moving into the newly refounded region and not just moving elsewhere. This is only a minor concern, as the majority of us have been here for a substantial amount of time and are unlikely to move, but the lurkers may lead to another fall in numbers. A discussion regarding refounding isn't necessary at this point, though we ought to have a discussion regarding long term plans. Any attempt to refound ought not to be made for several months yet.

In terms of the effectiveness of the password, sure it doesn't completely prevent us from being targeted, but it is a worthwhile deterrent. If raiders are specifically gunning for us, then they'll get in. But it does help to prevent those that are just looking for easy targets as they'll just go for regions that don't use a password.

You and I both know the morning group was the best group.

But consider this we could name the region Sovereign Ch[(b)ar]ter II: The Electric Boogaloo

Posted in Meridian and Yarbricht.

Waiting on a few others to post in Troubled before I continue that :D

Friendly island

Is anyone interested in continuing Friendly Introduction, or should I just wrap it up?

Harren island wrote:Snip

Posts coming!
Eventually.

Friendly island wrote:Is anyone interested in continuing Friendly Introduction, or should I just wrap it up?

I'm still interested, particularly after that horrible threat you've sent to my leader :'(

Friendly island

Joined WA and endorsed Val

Rejoined the WA and graced Val with my endorsement, all good things must come to an end at some point.

Nocturnalis wrote:Rejoined the WA and graced Val with my endorsement, all good things must come to an end at some point.

Harren island wrote:Joined WA and endorsed Val

Thank you all for rising to the occasion. We may flow between alternating and eccentric periods of furious activity and near-total-hibernation, but when necessary, we know how to act in a 'crisis.' The Charter rocks.

Nocturnalis and Asgareth

*When you just realize that Chargren is using the royal we*

Nouvel Acadie wrote:Thank you all for rising to the occasion. We may flow between alternating and eccentric periods of furious activity and near-total-hibernation, but when necessary, we know how to act in a 'crisis.' The Charter rocks.

Followed Suit

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