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A [Somewhat Reluctant] Desire for Co-Operation, in the Concern of Peace
An Official Government Announcement on behalf of the Consul and Senate.
Dear Lignuntiani and others,
It is with profound suffering in our nation and a desire for Peace and Co-Operation that we announce the Official Entering into Dialogue with the Government of the Respublica Socialistica [Of Lignuntiae] to negotiate a Large Scale Amendment of the Tracta Diolcentianum which saw the partition of our nation some Four Years ago, we hope to meet with Prases Justinianus Longinus in the Comitium in Iuno and conduct in peaceful and respectful dialogue; the idea of Integrating both Lignunti entities for all Lignuns to be more connected, amicable and respectful to one another. This comes from recognising the Horrors of the Conflict in Iuno, the Brutal Civil War that preceded it which resulted in the Partition and the longstanding grievances between Lignunti Groups in both Nations, we as Lignuns no matter what political allegiance can not stand just injustice within our nation, hence we hold peace talks, a Agreed Upon list has been drafted by legislators from both the Senatus in Aquitania and the one of Constantinopolis, it is as follows:
-Removing the Travel Restrictions to and from both Entities
-Disbanding of the Grenztruppen in Place of Populo-Limitanei
-A Solution to the Pressing Issue of Iuno, the Province and Region of Central Italica and Tiberina
-Jurisdiction and administration of the Holy City of Iuno
-Increased Co-operation between Government Entities, Law Enforcement and Legalities between the entities
-A Non-Aggression agreement, and pledge of neutrality in case of a 'Sponsor War'
-Allowing Safe Passage of the Trevea Augusta Royal Family
more...
This is confirmed by Praeses Justinianus Longinus and Prime Minister Publius Secundas during a Address to the Nation from the Nervan Palace in Constantinople, he is glad that he can sow Healing and reconciliation with the Western Entities as he promises a Peaceful Solution over Iuno and the other points posed.
So, ive recently been trying to design some flags for Hanamishima (Im using my QQH rp break to get more into vexillology), and I would like to ask you guys a question before I make some more flags, especially the military flags.
So the question is if you guys think it would be right to utilize symbolism close to the kyokujitsuki flag (Rising sun flag). I am asking this because I am aware that the flag is considered highly offensive in some areas of the world, especially in areas controlled by Imperial Japan back in ww2. And when I ask to use stuff similar to the flag, I want to make it aware that I absolutely am not, and will not be defending anything that Imperial Japan did in ww2 (While I believe that they were better during Meiji's time, especially considering factors like their massive red cross organization during 1905, but even then, 1st sinno-japanese war, and the colonizing of Korea is still despicable and imperialistic).
I would like to say that I would consider using something inspired by it, mostly because it is a very aesthetically nice looking flag. (again, not defending anything that was committed by anyone flying the flag). And because it is one of the main symbols of japan and their history, which Hanamishima is obviously based off of.
If you couldn't already tell, the current flag has part of the IJN Admiral's flag in it, and I mostly included it because of the relation to japanese symbolism, and the connection with Burgundaen. And the next flag I designed had something similar to the main IJA flag, although different.
I am also asking this because some of the base concept flags for the navy of Hanamishima look like this: https://imgur.com/a/CujcbO7
But, yeah, I hope you guys understand what Im trying to say, and sorry if it comes across like im trying to justify Imperial Japan, or making it look less bad, but I am mostly doing this because it is one of the main symbols of japanese history, and its hard to base much off of the Hinomaru (one without rays, and was/is the non war based flag of japan for hundreds of years). But please keep in mind that Im a white american, so I havent really been exposed to a major stigma around the IJN or IJA flag, and am still trying to figure out how bad it is and what cases are ok. Although, I would like to say that I know much more then the average american in terms of japanese history, so yeah... Im not ignorant to some of the conotations, and this is why im asking about it first.
Edit: i would like to make it more clear that I also wasn’t defending the imperialism started by Meiji, and that i was just stating that japan during his time was far better then when Tojo was ruling (and yes, i know Hirohito was emperor at the time, but as far as it is confirmable, he was mostly a figure head). and i am absolutely not defending the first sinno japanese war or the korean colonization
edit again: I’ve done some more research on first Sinno-Japanese war, and it was a little more horrid then i thought, but i still think it isn’t as bad as ww2. but yeah… i’m not even sure what point i was trying to make by bringing up Meiji
Lignuntia and Stewartika
Im Half asleep right now but uh I think it’s all awesome.
I’ll elaborate and assess tomorrow!
0_0 the flags i’ve made? because other wise you might want to re read what i said
Probably, I’ll check tomorrow lmao
alright, but the tldr of it was that i was asking if it was ok/ what the boundaries are, of using symbols similar to the rising sun flag within the flags of Hanamishima
Since you're bringing it up, yes, I would massively prefer it if you shied away from the Rising Sun. The people who I'm partly surrounded by, that being Asian Americans, particularly Koreans (which if you couldn't tell, is the group i belong to,) find the Rising Sun extremely, insanely offensive. It's not even like "hey man, that's uncool, that reminds us of the past" it's literally east Asia's Swastika. If you did something like Burg's which kept the sun's rays motif but avoided directly showing it (they even reversed the colors) that would be cool.
alright. thanks for clearing that up. but yeah, i do definitely plan to change the current flag for hanamishima soon, and pink will be the primary color. but i do plan on using the motif somewhat, however could i ask if the navy flag i designed and linked in the post is ok, or if its too far.
i would also like to say that i do plan on studying a lot more about korean history soon (though japan will always be my prismry topic of history study. as that is where i plan to move to in several years, and where i hope to join into the game market, as i have a massive and i mean massive obsession with nintendo, especially kirby, and just ask nori and he will testify of how over the top into nintendo i am)
and i will probably change up the color on the navy flag to be more obviously pink, because it could be mistaken for red, but it’s definitely pink. And i will probs do the sun stuff as white, like i usually do for hanamishima sun
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I have finished the (main)military flags for this account!
These are the flags: https://imgur.com/a/apR1YPG
And I would like to make it clear that these will be the final flags to utilize any symbol close to the Kyokujitsuki (rising sun flag with rays), and the only reason why it is being used in these is because of the association with the modern japanese military (I personally don't support their usage of it at all btw), and to maintain uniformity within the main military flags. And I have made sure that the Kyokujitsuki-esque symbolism is with different colors, and is with it partially covered. (Tho I guess you can make the argument about the fact that the standard of the senior captain of the IJN had inverted colors).
Also, the Marine Corp will be mostly grouped under the navy for now, and I might change the flags entirely later, once I do a lot more of the lore and info stuff for Hanamishima.
A quick note: Just because Japan does it now, doesn't mean you should feel the need to do so as well. Just saying.
yeah, i know. it’s just that i had already made part of the flags and wanted to keep uniformity within the military flags, and that is the symbol that makes the most sense in a military context. so if at any point it ever isn’t ok just tell me and I will change it :)
yeah, i know. it’s just that i had already made part of the flags and wanted to keep uniformity within the military flags, and that is the symbol that makes the most sense in a military context. so if at any point it ever isn’t ok (by that i mean if you feel like what i have done is too much) tell me and I will change it :)
Éntalesian Elkórthwiki Union - To See other Lands...
Upset from how quickly their idea of de-isolation was shot down, a small group of Government Officials have gone behind the back of the government and sponsored a covert expedition up north, in order to more properly map out the region which was last updated in... 1690. Go figure. They have chosen to head to up the "Simtali Strait", however due to still worries of the Reijk's existence have led to the expedition instead heading the opposite direction to unmapped areas.... And so in the dead of night, the ship heads of to the east.
(The Ship has begun to enter the waters of the apparant war to the north east.)
Qart Qart Hadasht
Stewartika
Akilianlamordianipor
Archevinia
Mira Hetonika
Lignuntia (I think)
Olivenzweig
The Souverän has begun to offer the Silvarusians to be spared from the fate of continue war by allowing Mosterian forces to occupy the former territories of Silvarus PRE unification, and reorganize into a Königliches Territorium similar to Kalahan, not only will they be spared from the war, but we will also help stabilize the area and help in reconstruction and what not. Along with this, Sigilus XIV will be allowed to keep his rulership position as "Königlicher Territorialaufseher" of the Königliches Territorium of the Silvarus...
(just so you know, the war rp has been put on pause for a few days, so i will try and get back to you about that when i am ready to fully return to rp)
Sigilus looked over the message from the Souverän over and over again. The office he had been evacuated too when the revolts began was dimly lit as he was bombarded by his advisors giving him useless insights on what to do...
The map before him of their land shows the reality of the situation... The Technostate has begun to launch a major offensive along the coast as more and more cities turn to their cause... But even more are turning to the Concessionists every day... And so it was set in his mind when he said it:
"Я хочу, чтобы вы составили наше послание о принятии. Немедленно."
His advisors suddenly stopped as they stared at him. And one of his generals.... They DARED to speak
"You.... You are not thinking straight! We need to consider this furth-"
"WHAT is there to consider! Our nation is in ruins, and I am left with a crumbling militia at best to defend our people with! OUR ARMIES ARE STILL STUCK IN THE SOUTH FOR GODS SAKES! And instead of taking this opportunity to prevent MORE deaths, you want me to drag out this war longer pointlessly just for- for what, so you can have your moment of fame? Well I am done!"
.... The message is organized and sent to the Mosterians...
"We have reviewed your offer to our state, and by acceptance of Sigilus XIV, we accept your olive branch....
Königliches Territorium des Silvarus
Mosterian forces move to occupy the nation as they begin collaborating to now focus purely on the Technostate. For now a temporary occupation until the end of the war will be put into place. Along with this, the Mosterians send a offer for peace to the Dunachronians, as in the eyes of the Mosterians continuing this war is pointless in the meantime.
It’s really the same reason why I stem off from using the rising sun flag, the closest I get to us is my current flag which… doesn’t really resemble the actual flag.
To be very clear, I’m Indonesian, as much as we got occupied by Japan for 4 years they did help with our independence so I don’t really feel as much hatred as people might think, though I don’t say they’re good, they did way worse in 4 years than the Dutch did in 300 years and even worse in a couple other place they occupy.
I kinda also see it as overused.
While I do based burg off multiple Japanese eras which subsequently included Imperial Japan since… they’re quite prominent, I try to not use imperial Japanese symbolism in my place, even the Righteous army’s doesn’t use imperial symbolism, to be fair that whole group is imperialism at its core, I just don’t really use it due to it being overused in my opinion, that and I don’t really want to associate burg with imperial japan too much and actually show the other Japanese eras I based it upon, I don’t defend any action imperial japan did, but I do include them into the lists of reference eras for burg.
All in all, it’s not an issue really, I get your concerns, but really, if you don’t mean it to defend Japanese imperialism, I don’t see it as an issue.
Leynex, Stewartika, and Hanamishima
(Im to the east lf you, im in pretty much the same geographical region)
A Matter of the Throne.
The grandfather clock swung left to right, idle in it’s corner of the room that Lord Draceus was in.
Tick, tock. Tick, tock.
The fireworks of the new decade shot into the sky, this was the 10th year that Lord Draceus has ruled over the lands of the Nexcruzians.
Despite the wishes of his High-Generals to celebrate the new decade with them, he sat alone in his room.
Tick, tock. Tick, tock.
He sighed as a knock on the door reverberated from the far side of the office room to the ears of the Lord.
“Come in,” Lord Draceus said with a dragging and tired tone,
High-General Augustus walked in, bowing with his head down, Lord Draceus watched him for a few moments before he commanded the High-General to cease his bow. Augustus looked around as he closed the door behind himself and cleared his throat and began to speak,
“My Lord, why must you stay in this office, away from your people? The public has been quite disappointed that their Lord has not made a message to them yet,”
Draceus stood up, the mahogany-wood chair with velvet cushions and a design only a dedicated carpenter could craft scraped against the clean marble floor. The fireworks roared and boomed outside the Office window, illuminating the dim-lit room that the two resided in,
“I have been thinking of what happens in the future, I may have decades ahead of me but the rule of this country is changing slowly,”
Augustus tilted his head sideways in confusion, Lord Draceus stood against the shadow of the fireworks’ lights, his figure imposing and darkened to obscure the stern expression he wore.
“What do you mean, my Lord?” Augustus asked, standing by the closed doorway that muffled the footsteps and chatter outside the room,
Lord Draceus turned around to face the window as his hands folded behind his back. A loud cacophony of silence and booming cheers and explosions filled the room as Lord Draceus spoke once again,
“The Province Council is growing in power since it’s established under my order, the Army is becoming less and less influential in politics and I might as well be the last Lord of Nexcruzmas if I don’t choose the next province’s High-General,”
Augustus sighed as he walked to the side of Lord Draceus, watching the everlasting crowd that gathered around Nexciria to celebrate, he looked at Lord Draceus with a sorrowful tone,
“I always expected the High-Generals and the Lord to burn in a bright revolution caused by the civilians, but because of the amount of reforms you’ve done and the border that you’ve closed and reopened countless times, I think we may have prolonged our lifeline until we die like a sick animal.”
Lord Draceus looked at Augustus, he thought for a moment as he began to speak,
“There’s always an ultimatum.”
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