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Also I'm against calling refusing a fresh start as godmodding. I did so much rp about the raid, including probably the best factbook in the region, and I didn't want to go through all that again just cause others wanted a fresh start.
I think the actual problem is with how some nations seem to be OP. Imo being OP is ok if it's justified, and in Khalistan and Qetho's case it is justified. But I think for rp to be fun strong nation should sometimes sacrifice realistic geopolitics for fun.
Like it's completely realistic for a strong nation to push their will on others. But it's also not always fun

Lankadeepa wrote:Also I'm against calling refusing a fresh start as godmodding. I did so much rp about the raid, including probably the best factbook in the region, and I didn't want to go through all that again just cause others wanted a fresh start.
I think the actual problem is with how some nations seem to be OP. Imo being OP is ok if it's justified, and in Khalistan and Qetho's case it is justified. But I think for rp to be fun strong nation should sometimes sacrifice realistic geopolitics for fun.
Like it's completely realistic for a strong nation to push their will on others. But it's also not always fun

Also what's this about a vote in Argentina? isn't Argentina the player nation Paraguai1

Lankadeepa wrote:Also I'm against calling refusing a fresh start as godmodding. I did so much rp about the raid, including probably the best factbook in the region, and I didn't want to go through all that again just cause others wanted a fresh start.
I think the actual problem is with how some nations seem to be OP. Imo being OP is ok if it's justified, and in Khalistan and Qetho's case it is justified. But I think for rp to be fun strong nation should sometimes sacrifice realistic geopolitics for fun.
Like it's completely realistic for a strong nation to push their will on others. But it's also not always fun

Yeah that's my point more or less. All I wanted was a shot at a decent RP, have fun and be left to do my thing, not having these already "OP" as you put it powers start to mess with me for no reason knowing there's nothing I can do about it. If I made an aggressive war/geopolitical move against Qetho first and it was retaliation, then fair enough, I should have known better. But it was unprovoked.

When the guy openly comments "I'll always have more money/resources than you, I'll keep doing it until you give up" I don't want to try and play it out in RP knowing that a teasing "I'm OP so I will win get f**ed" would be the approach from the other side. That is what I was calling god-modding though this description fits too.

I'm here to try and have a decent time not this OP player gang up BS.

What’s going on?

Goose and Duck wrote:What’s going on?

some people are abusing the fact that they are overpowered to push around others

A masssive 900 billion was spent towards defense sector of Toy-Ota for last year. This upgraded and introduced several number of ships, fighter jets and tanks, APCs etc.

Arjut wrote:You and Khalistan are both using your "built up" strength to push around everyone else. Khalistan with SA most notably, even trying to just take land from him for a new player, and always threatening him earlier on. I actually thought he actually had beef with SA with how prevalent it was. And how you just wanted to do with me and how you used this super-army to defeat Usca in days. So it IS godmodding when you're using all this bulk against everyone else who did want to start anew unlike Toy-Ota and OF who stayed to themselves.

I'm fed up with the bullying I've seen and now that you're turning it against me I'd rather just f off than stay here and go through this with you in the future with something else you might try to pull.

Yay! I am atleast not God-Modding.

Arrival

Charles de Gaulle has arrived in Montreal and is exploring with Prime minister Francois Legault, this was broadcasted all over news in Ienovo as this is the first meeting since the separation of Old Ienovo (Québec) and New Ienovo (France). He visited the ruins of the old mansion, where the former Presidents used to live, where the last one, Pierre-Antoine, died. His legacy, although questionable, will be forever remembered as the last government before the crumbling of Ienovo.

Lankadeepa wrote:large destroyers and cruisers can carry more. Arsanel ship design had like twice or thrice that amount included

Yes that's the point big dawg

Lankadeepa wrote:the sailors in your navy are saying that it'll be better to reach out to lankadeepa for something like this.
I'm not saying anything. Your own sailors are. Aren't you going to listen to your sailors?

Maybe

Sovereign State Of Khalistan wrote:S0UTH AFR1CA Usca do we hate each other and are we enemies with each other outside the roleplay??

Nah we're chill (I think)

Valoraca wrote:He signs the agreement.

What else do you say we discuss?

Idk, I think that's all

Lankadeepa wrote:"Then follow me," Prageeth Ranaweera said, leading the president out of the house and into the garden, which was modest in terms of size, just like the three storey house. There he led the president to a garden table set up under the shade of a mango tree, with a tea set conveniently on it, as if he expected the president to choose the garden.
"I don't like the chaos of the city. I mean, we're working on getting things to move more smoothly there as Colombo is our center of business. haggling and bartering is quite frowned upon by the people now too, specially by the city dwellers. So it's not here to stay for much longer, with our economy improving and with our population being spread out more."
He gestured to the president to sit down and pointed at the tea set. "Care to have a drink before lunch? or do you prefer anything else?"

The President sits down at Ranaweera's suggestion, taking a cup from the tea-set and examining it. "It's been a good while since I have had tea. I'm more of a coffee person, myself." He commented as he set the cup back on the table, and poured some tea into it. "I understand, there is a lot to be said for the country life. So, onto business, I do believe it would be mutually beneficial for our nations to normalize relations and open up trade. I don't have any concrete proposals to make at this time but if you have any yourself I would be happy to hear them."

Central Californian Valley wrote:some people are abusing the fact that they are overpowered to push around others

Who are these over powered nations?

Goose and Duck wrote:Who are these over powered nations?

I think its khalistan and qetho, but qetho left for some reason

Central Californian Valley wrote:I think its khalistan and qetho, but qetho left for some reason

NOOOOO, WHYYYYYYY

Arjut wrote:The President sits down at Ranaweera's suggestion, taking a cup from the tea-set and examining it. "It's been a good while since I have had tea. I'm more of a coffee person, myself." He commented as he set the cup back on the table, and poured some tea into it. "I understand, there is a lot to be said for the country life. So, onto business, I do believe it would be mutually beneficial for our nations to normalize relations and open up trade. I don't have any concrete proposals to make at this time but if you have any yourself I would be happy to hear them."

Is the thing with Qetho over?

Usca wrote:Is the thing with Qetho over?

Well as far as I'm concerned yeah. I made the points I wanted to make. If he wants to come back, act like it never happened, and move on without anything like this happening in the future I can totally go along with that.

Arjut wrote:My point was that you tried to make that a thing without SA's okay, just forcing a nation in rebellion onto his land. I do admit I might have exaggerated a bit that you might actually have problems with SA but I was just saying what I observed.

What I was trying to say is that with how aggressive you (going back to the missiles) and Qetho can get and how eager you are to show off your "advanced" (and by advanced resources I meant more in sheer quantity given your excuse of "I already earned it"), including what happened today, it can seem like you're just trying to show off and god-mod. Making it seem that no one can really do anything in the world or not go along with what you want them to do without risking pissing you off.

You would be right that I wouldn't have much of a spot to complain if I was the one to make a move against Qetho and it was a retaliation but the thing is, I did not. He made a move on me by trying to install a puppet leader and military bases on land near me while I've never made any aggressive or political moves towards Qetho in the RP. And when he basically said that no matter what I try to do he will always win out I felt the need to say something before it went any further, rather than waste my time trying to resolve it through RP after he already declared that with his immense resources he'll just screw me over. That is what I meant when I first told him to stop with the GM-ing.

I'm not here to hold a grudge or anything so if Qetho does come back and wants to act like it never happened and move on I'd be just fine with that.

Is there a problem with being aggressive in rp?

Lol I'm done arguing with kids, bye. 😂✋

Usca wrote:NOOOOO, WHYYYYYYY

He lost interest and other reasons. He has no hard feelings for anyone

Sovereign State Of Khalistan wrote:Is there a problem with being aggressive in rp?

Lol I'm done arguing with kids, bye. 😂✋

My whole problem is using your OP status as the cudgel to be aggressive against other players, weaker players in my case when they didn't provoke it.

All I want is a fair shot at RP without dealing with OP players trying to shoot me down and openly declaring that trying to play along with it and stop them in RP is a waste of time because they're the OP one.

If wanting a fair playing field makes me a kid, then sure "bye". Laugh it off. Under this logic I guess a brand new nation to the region getting targeted by the big players is also just fine, they can go f themselves.

Usca wrote:Yes that's the point big dawg

I mean 100 isnt enough for arsenal ship

Sovereign State Of Khalistan wrote:Is there a problem with being aggressive in rp?

Lol I'm done arguing with kids, bye. 😂✋

It's mostly that nations think you can beat them all in any conflict easily. that sort of thing makes it less fun

Lankadeepa wrote:It's mostly that nations think you can beat them all in any conflict easily. that sort of thing makes it less fun

Then develop your nation like who is stopping you, I never attacked anyone for no reason??

Arjut wrote:My whole problem is using your OP status as the cudgel to be aggressive against other players, weaker players in my case when they didn't provoke it.

All I want is a fair shot at RP without dealing with OP players trying to shoot me down and openly declaring that trying to play along with it and stop them in RP is a waste of time because they're the OP one.

If wanting a fair playing field makes me a kid, then sure "bye". Laugh it off. Under this logic I guess a brand new nation to the region getting targeted by the big players is also just fine, they can go f themselves.

You make allies with nations that are seen as enemies, wha do you expect. If you don't want to be attacked don't do stuff to anger others, LIKE in real life.

If you have a problem then don't participate, you are the only one with a problem.

Lankadeepa wrote:I mean 100 isnt enough for arsenal ship

...I know, it was a rough number

Sovereign State Of Khalistan wrote:Then develop your nation like who is stopping you, I never attacked anyone for no reason??
You make allies with nations that are seen as enemies, wha do you expect. If you don't want to be attacked don't do stuff to anger others, LIKE in real life.

If you have a problem then don't participate, you are the only one with a problem.

Just because I'm the only one "with a problem" doesn't make it less true. Like Lanka said, when you have OP players openly flexing their status and how they're better than everyone and can take you down over the slightest perceived "aggression" that makes it less fun. And that open mindset of "I'm better than everyone else" and the mod response to these criticisms simply being "get gud" eliminates motivation to try and develop yourself and play it through RP when you know the other person is just going to OP-blast through it and there's nothing you can do about it.

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