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Watkappa

Atlantarctica wrote:Just look at World Assembly, you can only vote if you're in it

The security council or the regular one? We do not see how any of this could possibly relate to you threatening heads of autonomous foreign nations. As a staunch supporter of national, galactic, and universal freedom we of course vote against any such proposals that seek to ban rather than incentivize something.
Edit: In fact, we would not call the weapons described there inhumane at all. Isn't it more humane to maim than to kill? Developing such weapons might be to protect rather than torture. Simply defining something as inhumane because it was developed to maim seems baseless.

The canary islands of trinity

I would rather vote for a policy that would save millions of lives than for the purpose of "freedom".

Cisairse and Grynbryr

Watkappa

Atlantarctica wrote:I would rather vote for a policy that would save millions of lives than for the purpose of "freedom".

Since we were to slow to edit: In fact, we would not call the weapons described there inhumane at all. Isn't it more humane to maim than to kill? Developing such weapons might be to protect rather than torture. Simply defining something as inhumane because it was developed to maim seems baseless.
Edit: Furthermore, there was not given any definition of 'permanent'. Injuries that may now seem permanent might become naught but temporary in a few decades.

No, it's not. It's more humane to 'kill' because death in warfare is fast and quick most of the time. Chemical and Biological warfare isn't used to kill soldiers, it's used to maximize suffering.
Furthermore, getting rid of chemical and biological warfare is one way into getting rid of WMD. Chem/Bio weapons aren't humane at all.

Grynbryr

Atlantarctica wrote:No, it's not. It's more humane to 'kill' because death in warfare is fast and quick most of the time. Chemical and Biological warfare isn't used to kill soldiers, it's used to maximize suffering.
Furthermore, getting rid of chemical and biological warfare is one way into getting rid of WMD. Chem/Bio weapons aren't humane at all.

The current resolution is not about biological weapons. Those were banned in a prior resolution.
If I cut off the hand of a thief, is it not more merciful than delivering a death sentence? Why is this differently in battle? Having a weapon to cripple brainwashed enemies seems more merciful than killing them if afterwards they might live a life - albeit without their limps - with their families and loved ones.

Watkappa wrote:Having a weapon to cripple brainwashed enemies seems more merciful than killing them if afterwards they might live a life - albeit without their limps - with their families and loved ones.

A life, likely, of misery and pain. It is perfectly normal and fine to kill your enemies as it is the more humane option. Is it morally correct? No. But neither is chemical warfare. If you look at this from a moral standpoint, chemical warfare will always remain the larger evil.

Grynbryr

Atlantarctica wrote:A life, likely, of misery and pain. It is perfectly normal and fine to kill your enemies as it is the more humane option. Is it morally correct? No. But neither is chemical warfare. If you look at this from a moral standpoint, chemical warfare will always remain the larger evil.

How do you know the life will be one of misery and pain? We dare you to tell this to all the veterans who lost a limb in service to their respective nations?
Besides, this would not only ban chemical weapons.

Watkappa wrote:How do you know the life will be one of misery and pain? We dare you to tell this to all the veterans who lost a limb in service to their respective nations?
Besides, this would not only ban chemical weapons.

Honestly, anything that bans the usage of chemical weapons, I'm for. There's no point in stockpiling chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons anymore. Everybody knows that they're going to kill the Earth if they ever fire a single missile, so why bother with building more? It's nothing more than a waste of resources which could be spent on something more useful.

Grynbryr

Annihilators of chan island wrote:I have no idea but am excited to learn which it was tomorrow. :O

if it were a stab in the dark, then i would've guessed Israel.

"cedar" made it an educated guess.

Post self-deleted by Carribean tropical islands.

the argument over the WA proposal seems rhetorical to me.

since we are protected from raids by Mike, i figured that no one participated in them. ergo, weapons are a non-issue.

Watkappa

Carribean tropical islands

Landover Baptist Church wrote:the argument over the WA proposal seems rhetorical to me.

since we are protected from raids by Mike, i figured that no one participated in them. ergo, weapons are a non-issue.

There is no such thing as Inhumane Weaponry, banning them would oppress the rights of the people.

Watkappa

Atlantarctica wrote:Honestly, anything that bans the usage of chemical weapons, I'm for. There's no point in stockpiling chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons anymore. Everybody knows that they're going to kill the Earth if they ever fire a single missile, so why bother with building more? It's nothing more than a waste of resources which could be spent on something more useful.

Speak for your own planet. Don't just try to force your opinion down every independent nation's throat. A chemical gas to incapacitate enemies would be a chemical weapon. I'd say it would be most humane. More so than a taser perhaps.

Carribean tropical islands and Grittty kitty

Grittty kitty

Hi, do we have polls and Discurd?

Grittty kitty

Watkappa wrote:Speak for your own planet. Don't just try to force your opinion down every independent nation's throat. A chemical gas to incapacitate enemies would be a chemical weapon. I'd say it would be most humane. More so than a taser perhaps.

TCB + ether = smooooth operators . . . 🍄🍄🍄

Watkappa

Grittty kitty wrote:TCB + ether = smooooth operators . . . 🍄🍄🍄

Do you ship to parallel dimensions? ^^

Grittty kitty wrote:Hi, do we have polls and Discurd?

Discord? i have it on my computer at home; don't use it.
as for a Discord channel, i suppose you could convince Mikeswill to start one, but i'm curious: what would one discuss there that's inconvenient to discuss here? if you'd like immediate give-and-take conversation, then perhaps other players here who you find interesting could be contacted to see if they're interested.

we do have forums: http://www.runboard.com/bnationstates

as for polls, someone will create one now and then.

Cisairse

I like the RMB.

Xaviena and Grynbryr

Xaviena has officially achieved a national faith, being Kindness Supremism, putting values of kindness and peace before all else.

Palmstars, Cisairse, Watkappa, and Grynbryr

Spinning diamond

I've finally realized something. No matter what happens out there, we continue to spin. and spin. and spin.

Palmstars, Cisairse, and Watkappa

When one spins spins spins backwards snips snips snips eno

Looks like "Limitation of Inhumane Weaponry" is on track to be defeated by about 40 points if voting ended now. That's a whopping defeat, but not that whopping. The previous resolution was defeated by over 80 points.

Watkappa

Friday, 21 February, 2020 :: 64

What is rooted is easy to nourish.
What is recent is easy to correct.
What is brittle is easy to break.
What is small is easy to scatter.

Prevent trouble before it arises.
Put things in order before they exist.
The giant pine tree
grows from a tiny sprout.
The journey of a thousand miles
starts from beneath your feet.

Rushing into action, you fail.
Trying to grasp things, you lose them.
Forcing a project to completion,
you ruin what was almost ripe.

Therefore the Master takes action
by letting things take their course.
He remains as calm
at the end as at the beginning.
He has nothing,
thus has nothing to lose.
What he desires is non-desire;
what he learns is to unlearn.
He simply reminds people
of who they have always been.
He cares about nothing but the Tao.
Thus he can care for all things.

Today’s Featured Nation:

The Contrarian Country of The Double Wing

”Don't like what we do?...then get the frack out!”

WA Category: Corrupt Dictatorship

Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Frightening
Political Freedoms: Few

The Double Wing's national animal is the Double Wing'd Boar, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its national religion is The Fellowship of the Wing.

The Double Wing is ranked 393rd in the world and 3rd in NationStates for Most Valuable International Artwork, with 347.84 Bank.

Mikeswill

The Double Wing and Grynbryr

The Mikes Hope Essence of Mikeswill graciously extends a warm welcome to our newest Nations:

Atlus korp
Carribean tropical islands
Edyanai
New big freedom

Gritty kitty
Costa de los termitas
Bielobrazil
Kingodom of slava

Our Esteemed Region continues to attract the Most
Enlightened Nations in the JenGov Land.

MH

Landover Baptist Church, Watkappa, Severus Eragon Kane, Grynbryr, and 1 otherCarribean tropical islands

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