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Carthago-libya wrote:but we still have the pope

I assume you're saying it's more of a confederation than a unified entity?

Wait Christianity is still a thing?

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Das herrliche reich wrote:Wait Christianity is still a thing?

this weird blend of christianity and the roman pantheon

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Carthago-libya wrote:this weird blend of christianity and the roman pantheon

That sounds..... kinda gross.

Das herrliche reich wrote:Wait Christianity is still a thing?

Roman Christianity, yes. I'm very excited about this idea, actually.

In principle, Roman Christianity acknowledges the legitimacy of the Greco-Roman pantheon but charges that some stories are out of order, blurred by time, or some stories are in fact prophecies. They teach that Jesus Christ, the Jew martyred on the crucifix in 33 CE, was, in fact, the result of a union between the King of the Gods, Jupiter, and the Virgin Mary, a mortal. His father resurrected him after three days, and brought him to Olympus/Heaven to serve by his side as his foremost champion.

Jesus Christ is known as the Son of Jupiter for this reason, and is revered as an ascended demigods; the foremost of the ascended demigods, in fact. Jupiter, the King of the Gods, is the only true god in Roman Christianity; the other Olympians are not gods, but merely angels and archangels, or ascended demigods. Thus, the origin story of Greek mythology is cast aside (Kronos regurgitating the elder Olympians, Gaia and Uranus, etc.) and instead Genesis is accepted as the true story of creation by most devout Christians, though of course archaeology would beg to differ.

A mortal or demigod who has been martyred or has done benevolent things in their lifetime can be ascended to Heaven, becoming a patron saint/patron god of some element. For example, the Virgin Mary ascended to Heaven and became canonized as Vesta, the goddess/saint of the hearth and the home. Roman Emperors thus all aim to do good things and then they can become canonized as a god/saint. For example, Saint Justinian might be the patron god/saint of Roman law, while Saint Constantine might be the patron god/saint of the city of Byzantium or something.

But an Emperor can't just declare himself a saint, which gives quite a bit of power to the Flamen Dialis, the Head Priest of Roman Christianity, Bishop of Rome, Keeper of the Keys to Olympus, etc. As in our real world, the Flamen Dialis/Pope's power mainly comes in his interpretation of the Bible and of Greco-Roman mythology, which is very subjective at times; his edicts essentially declare which interpretation is the true interpretation. He also has the power to canonize people and declare them a patron god/saint, or (controversially) sell them indulgences so that he can get money and they can get into heaven.

Otherwise, I think the structure more closely resembles the Catholic Church than Roman temples. There's various dioceses across the Roman Empire, arranged in a hierarchy that eventually all reports back to the Flamen Dialis. However, I think there's a much more heavy emphasis on various cults and branches, which are more tolerated in this timeline than the Roman Catholic Church (because of Rome's habit of assimilating foreign deities). For example, the Cult of Thoth is probably very popular in Egypt, the Cult of Mithras popular in the East, and the Cult of the Virgin Mary popular in Rome itself.

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Vulpinas wrote:Roman Christianity, yes. I'm very excited about this idea, actually.

In principle, Roman Christianity acknowledges the legitimacy of the Greco-Roman pantheon but charges that some stories are out of order, blurred by time, or some stories are in fact prophecies. They teach that Jesus Christ, the Jew martyred on the crucifix in 33 CE, was, in fact, the result of a union between the King of the Gods, Jupiter, and the Virgin Mary, a mortal. His father resurrected him after three days, and brought him to Olympus/Heaven to serve by his side as his foremost champion.

Jesus Christ is known as the Son of Jupiter for this reason, and is revered as an ascended demigods; the foremost of the ascended demigods, in fact. Jupiter, the King of the Gods, is the only true god in Roman Christianity; the other Olympians are not gods, but merely angels and archangels, or ascended demigods. Thus, the origin story of Greek mythology is cast aside (Kronos regurgitating the elder Olympians, Gaia and Uranus, etc.) and instead Genesis is accepted as the true story of creation by most devout Christians, though of course archaeology would beg to differ.

A mortal or demigod who has been martyred or has done benevolent things in their lifetime can be ascended to Heaven, becoming a patron saint/patron god of some element. For example, the Virgin Mary ascended to Heaven and became canonized as Vesta, the goddess/saint of the hearth and the home. Roman Emperors thus all aim to do good things and then they can become canonized as a god/saint. For example, Saint Justinian might be the patron god/saint of Roman law, while Saint Constantine might be the patron god/saint of the city of Byzantium or something.

But an Emperor can't just declare himself a saint, which gives quite a bit of power to the Flamen Dialis, the Head Priest of Roman Christianity, Bishop of Rome, Keeper of the Keys to Olympus, etc. As in our real world, the Flamen Dialis/Pope's power mainly comes in his interpretation of the Bible and of Greco-Roman mythology, which is very subjective at times; his edicts essentially declare which interpretation is the true interpretation. He also has the power to canonize people and declare them a patron god/saint, or (controversially) sell them indulgences so that he can get money and they can get into heaven.

Otherwise, I think the structure more closely resembles the Catholic Church than Roman temples. There's various dioceses across the Roman Empire, arranged in a hierarchy that eventually all reports back to the Flamen Dialis. However, I think there's a much more heavy emphasis on various cults and branches, which are more tolerated in this timeline than the Roman Catholic Church (because of Rome's habit of assimilating foreign deities). For example, the Cult of Thoth is probably very popular in Egypt, the Cult of Mithras popular in the East, and the Cult of the Virgin Mary popular in Rome itself.

So catholicism and orthodoxy never split in the great schism?

Das herrliche reich wrote:So catholicism and orthodoxy never split in the great schism?

The IRL Great Schism hasn't even had enough time to happen; it happened in 1054 CE, remember?

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Vulpinas wrote:The IRL Great Schism hasn't even had enough time to happen; it happened in 1054 CE, remember?

Oh right. *facepalm*

Vulpinas

Das herrliche reich wrote:Oh right. *facepalm*

But yes, we do see a bit of rivalry between the Flamen Dialis and the High Priests and Priestesses of the other Saints. I think in particular the Cults of Thoth and Isis have been vying for their own power.

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Vulpinas wrote:But yes, we do see a bit of rivalry between the Flamen Dialis and the High Priests and Priestesses of the other Saints. I think in particular the Cults of Thoth and Isis have been vying for their own power.

Do the RP posts for the application for the application have to be posts from this RP or can it be the ones from when I RP'ed Belgium?

Das herrliche reich wrote:Do the RP posts for the application for the application have to be posts from this RP or can it be the ones from when I RP'ed Belgium?

The latter is fine.

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Vulpinas wrote:The latter is fine.

this was going to be a steampunk-type era if I recall right? or are we keeping it medieval?

Das herrliche reich wrote:this was going to be a steampunk-type era if I recall right? or are we keeping it medieval?

Mildly steampunk, 1939 tech.

Das herrliche reich wrote:this was going to be a steampunk-type era if I recall right? or are we keeping it medieval?

A mixture. Medieval/Classical governments and philosophies, steampunk technologies.

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Vulpinas wrote:A mixture. Medieval/Classical governments and philosophies, steampunk technologies.

Medieval technology would be fun to RP with, but guess over half this region disagrees with mean that.

Das herrliche reich wrote:Medieval technology would be fun to RP with, but guess over half this region disagrees with mean that.

I’ve got the same issue with sci-fi tech lol

Das herrliche reich wrote:Medieval technology would be fun to RP with, but guess over half this region disagrees with mean that.

We can try that next but that would limit communication time, thus shrinking the map to a small corner of people able to interact with each other.

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Vulpinas wrote:We can try that next but that would limit communication time, thus shrinking the map to a small corner of people able to interact with each other.

Not if we include the silk road. Ever heard of the theory of the Roman Empire and China having known each other existed?

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Should I use German names? I doubt french would be come around in the German homeland. Or would French still come around?

Das herrliche reich wrote:Not if we include the silk road. Ever heard of the theory of the Roman Empire and China having known each other existed?

In any meaningful way.

Das herrliche reich wrote:Should I use German names? I doubt french would be come around in the German homeland. Or would French still come around?

Latin. Even in Medieval Europe Latin was a court language, and that was without a Roman Empire dominating its entirety.

Xin zhong guo

Das herrliche reich wrote:Should I use German names? I doubt french would be come around in the German homeland. Or would French still come around?

I'm not an expert on that field but I would suggest German names.

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Xin zhong guo wrote:I'm not an expert on that field but I would suggest German names.

Okay.

Das herrliche reich wrote:Okay.

Or how about Biblical names? I think the Franks have probably converted to Christianity, right?

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Vulpinas wrote:Or how about Biblical names? I think the Franks have probably converted to Christianity, right?

I was referring to the language, I will probably do christian names for royalty though.

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