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Ranponian wrote:Most people who would have to give up land would most likely be happy if they were permitted to keep the land rights, but let others RP there.

I mean take Canada for example, Para has not annexed it and has let people RP there for ages.

That does not hurt the dynamic because he is not enforcing policy, yet he retains his right over the land.

In terms of Mongolia i do enforce policy, but i still allow people to RP there without hurting the dynamic.

And honestly, I don't support that either,

Why should Para own the land rights to Canada? the 12 day rule still applies, does it not?

If you own the land rights to something you should still have to rp in it every 12 days if you did not let someone else RP it.

Ranponian wrote:Most people who would have to give up land would most likely be happy if they were permitted to keep the land rights, but let others RP there.

I mean take Canada for example, Para has not annexed it and has let people RP there for ages.

That does not hurt the dynamic because he is not enforcing policy, yet he retains his right over the land.

In terms of Mongolia i do enforce policy, but i still allow people to RP there without hurting the dynamic.

But in 1847 Russia didn’t own Mongolia I believe China did. It wouldn’t make sense. Why does China lose its land for Russia?

Liberalina wrote:Hey u might get the congo

How come? You changed your mind?

Liberalina

Antillian wrote:But in 1847 Russia didn’t own Mongolia I believe China did. It wouldn’t make sense. Why does China lose its land for Russia?

Have you just been ignoring me this entire time dude?

Bomoko wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion that Islam & prosperity go hand in hand when it comes to pre-colonial Africa. Being a Muslim state simply had a lot more benefits coming with it.

If I want to build an African power I may need to be a Muslim empire.

This does seem to be the case. Muslims tend to take care of other Muslims.

Bomoko and Liberalina

Like literally how many f*cking times do i need to say i am going to be giving up Mongolia and more when the timeline changes?

Diwi

Bomoko wrote:How come? You changed your mind?

Well i'm looking at Spain+Morocco and Spain+Portugal

Also looking at Brazil but i don't think vicky will let me, but its chill

Liberalina wrote:And honestly, I don't support that either,

Why should Para own the land rights to Canada? the 12 day rule still applies, does it not?

If you own the land rights to something you should still have to rp in it every 12 days if you did not let someone else RP it.

12 day rules only apply on the land holder.

If he went inactive as America, he would lose both claims.

But since he has not, he maintains the claim.

Further, since the land belongs to him the activity does not even apply to anybody RPing canada.

It would be the same if i let you RP the Ukraine, you would not have to adhere to the 12 day rule because it only applies to the "mother" spot, aka Russia.

Either way if you wanted to change the dynamic in which land rights are maintained, you would need a 2/3rds majority as it is a matter for the Map.

Look, if my preferred spot is open, I will likely leave Brazil.

Yarosluv, Antagarichh, Liberalina, and Ranponian

Ranponian wrote:Have you just been ignoring me this entire time dude?

No? Your talking about this dynamic and how para lets people rp Canada and you let people rp Mongolia, but you still own it! However that’s fine in this timeline where you have the rp to back up these claims but in 1847 why would Russia have those claims? I’m not saying your not going to give up land, however like if said not everyone is like you. Not everyone supports the idea of letting people rp parts of there nation. And could restrict the rp of the 1847 start date almost out the gate.

Victoria Harbor wrote:Look, if my preferred spot is open, I will likely leave Brazil.

Hawaii? 😂

Yarosluv wrote:Hawaii? 😂

Finally someone gets it 😂🌸

Yarosluv

Ranponian wrote:12 day rules only apply on the land holder.

If he went inactive as America, he would lose both claims.

But since he has not, he maintains the claim.

Further, since the land belongs to him the activity does not even apply to anybody RPing canada.

It would be the same if i let you RP the Ukraine, you would not have to adhere to the 12 day rule because it only applies to the "mother" spot, aka Russia.

Ok well you see how that's very dumb right?

If I'm Spain and I get approved as Portugal, and decide to split it - provided I RP in Spain, I still own Portugal?

That's just, so very stupid.

Or if I get approved for Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia and split it,

Providied I still RP Tunisia I won the land rights to Algeria and Morocco still?

Antillian wrote:No? Your talking about this dynamic and how para lets people rp Canada and you let people rp Mongolia, but you still own it! However that’s fine in this timeline where you have the rp to back up these claims but in 1847 why would Russia have those claims? I’m not saying your not going to give up land, however like if said not everyone is like you. Not everyone supports the idea of letting people rp parts of there nation. And could restrict the rp of the 1847 start date almost out the gate.

Because there is a difference between what we have done this timeline, and what will happen when we go back in time.

I will be giving Mongolia to China, as i have stated so many times that i am physically red in the face.

please listen instead of coming up with worthless conjecture

Diwi

Ranponian wrote:Because there is a difference between what we have done this timeline, and what will happen when we go back in time.

I will be giving Mongolia to China, as i have stated so many times that i am physically red in the face.

please listen instead of coming up with worthless conjecture

Also listen to me then I never said you wouldn’t I’m saying that not everyone is fair like you!!! And probably won’t give up land they got for free during the time switch that there nation never held at the time!

Yarosluv wrote:This does seem to be the case. Muslims tend to take care of other Muslims.

Yes, if you were a Muslim state between the 8th century & the 19th century you fared better. I mean look at all the sub-Saharan African states that ever amounted to anything, with the exception of Ethiopia, they were almost all Muslim.

The Songhai Empire, the Mali Empire, the Swahili states, the Northern Nigerian emirates & sultanates etc.

Being a Muslim empire meant trade with the Arabs, this meant access to guns, it meant literacy due to the Arabic writing system, it meant access to silks & it meant a strong structured identity and political system.

It’s exactly the same with Southeast Asia & Hinduism/Buddhism, by becoming Hindus & Buddhists (prior to Islam) states from Burma & Cambodia to Indonesia and the Philippines were able to make huge civilisations.

Yarosluv

Down with Hawaii’s pineapple independence

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Antillian

Liberalina wrote:Ok well you see how that's very dumb right?

If I'm Spain and I get approved as Portugal, and decide to split it - provided I RP in Spain, I still own Portugal?

That's just, so very stupid.

Or if I get approved for Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia and split it,

Providied I still RP Tunisia I won the land rights to Algeria and Morocco still?

Personally i dont, i believe it is entirely within peoples rights to do that.

You would own the land rights, and you would be permitted to RP there if you wanted, but the vast majority of people who have done that have let people RP there instead.

Owning the land rights is entirely different to what some people believe, which is physically owning it IC.

land rights are an OOC construct, not an IC one.

I own Mongolia OOC, yet IC i do not.

Liberalina

Antillian wrote:Also listen to me then I never said you wouldn’t I’m saying that not everyone is fair like you!!! And probably won’t give up land they got for free during the time switch that there nation never held at the time!

Because it is and should be voluntary.

Nobody should be forced to give up their land rights.

Paramountica wrote:Down with Hawaii’s pineapple independence

This post has been sponsored by the Dole fruit company

Mmmmm pinaple

Paramountica and Diwi

Ranponian wrote:Because it is and should be voluntary.

Nobody should be forced to give up their land rights.

But they never had those land rights in 1847. Therefore why should they have them

Ranponian wrote:Personally i dont, i believe it is entirely within peoples rights to do that.

You would own the land rights, and you would be permitted to RP there if you wanted, but the vast majority of people who have done that have let people RP there instead.

Owning the land rights is entirely different to what some people believe, which is physically owning it IC.

land rights are an OOC construct, not an IC one.

I own Mongolia OOC, yet IC i do not.

Yeah I think that's just trying to have a chokehold and monopoly on spots

Liberalina wrote:Yeah I think that's just trying to have a chokehold and monopoly on spots

Like i said i disagree.

Antillian wrote:But they never had those land rights in 1847. Therefore why should they have them

Using the same argument, why should alternate history spots exist?

They didnt own that land IRL in 1847, why should we let them take up that land for alternate means?

Same argument different target.

Liberalina wrote:Yeah I think that's just trying to have a chokehold and monopoly on spots

Again i disagree, but that is what opinions are for.

Liberalina

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