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We the people of the Commonwealth of Liberty, do hereby pass and promulgate this, the Time Switch Referendum Act of 2020,


Section 1. THE REFERENEDUM

    I. Noting that the options in the original poll were all extreme and no middle ground option was given, a referendum shall be held which will change the date of the timeswitch to APRIL 30TH based on a 60% threshold.

    II. If the referendum fails, then the original date of JUNE 15TH shall continue to be the date of the timeswitch


DEFINITIONS
COLONY: Conquered territory on another continent/not bordering the mother state.

Sponsored by : Liberalina

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Format by the incredible The Shining Purple Light

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What do you guys think of this?

"V. Citizens will receive the land rights to the territory they owned in the current year if no one else owns the land rights. (Citizens will not receive land rights to colonies, this will be defined in a later section."

I got no complaints but its iffy

Here was the example:

If for example, someone is roleplaying Germany, they will retain rights to the entirety of Germany during the time switch even though it balkanizes due to border changes. However, Germany has the right to unify it through alternate history. [i]Additionally, if there is no Poland, Germany receives the land rights to the territory they owned in Poland during that time./i]"

Like is it even possible to define if something was a true part of the territory and not a colony?

Valijun and Ranponian

Here is the successor to Gupta in 2012. Y'all thought Gupta was a tyrannical, ideological authoritarian dictator...

This is just beautiful:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU5R0wBU8AEkCT9.jpg

1 day = 1 timeline

Yarosluv, The true islands, Victoria Harbor, Valijun, and 3 othersLiberalina, Diwi, and Ranponian

Alzarikstan wrote:Here is the successor to Gupta in 2012. Y'all thought Gupta was a tyrannical, ideological authoritarian dictator...

This is just beautiful:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU5R0wBU8AEkCT9.jpg

< Obama suspicious >

we have it backwards, guys

1 day = 1 day

let's go the distance. 1939 in 50+ irl years

The true islands, Victoria Harbor, Antagarichh, Valijun, and 6 othersOsivoII, Liberalina, Grreece, Diwi, Ranponian, and Mocalistan

Yarosluv wrote:we have it backwards, guys

1 day = 1 day

let's go the distance. 1939 in 50+ irl years

You have it backwards

1 week = 1 hour

Yarosluv, Antagarichh, Valijun, Diwi, and 1 otherRanponian

Yarosluv wrote:we have it backwards, guys

1 day = 1 day

let's go the distance. 1939 in 50+ irl years

I’m loling
1 minute IRL = 1 minute in game

Yarosluv, Valijun, Diwi, and Ranponian

Antagarichh wrote:1 day = 1 timeline

1 day = 1 decade

Liberalina wrote:You have it backwards

1 week = 1 hour

Antagarichh wrote:I’m loling
1 minute IRL = 1 minute in game

You two are the second coming.

Antagarichh, Valijun, Liberalina, Diwi, and 1 otherRanponian

The more I research pre-colonial Africa, the more I realise that there were so many polities.

We seem to gave been hardwired to believe that a lot of sub-Saharan Africa was just naked tribesmen isolated from the world.

But even in equatorial regions like Cameroon & Gabon there were home to sophisticated Muslim emirates with connections to Fulanis who had connections with the Arabs.

In East Africa, areas like Tanzania’s Mozambique’s & Kenya’s coasts had been home to Muslim trading cities and kingdoms that had been trading goods with nations as far as Persia, India & Southeast Asia for centuries prior to European contact.

Yarosluv, The true islands, Antagarichh, OsivoII, and 3 othersLiberalina, Diwi, and Ranponian

Does anybody object to me playin as either Romania, Austria-Hungary, or a country in America?

Yarosluv wrote:You two are the second coming.

Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

Yarosluv, Valijun, Diwi, and Ranponian

Connomia wrote:Does anybody object to me playin as either Romania, Austria-Hungary, or a country in America?

Im pretty sure everyone is object to that except parts of Austria Hungary.

Because people wont lose land in the timeline.

Connomia wrote:Does anybody object to me playin as either Romania, Austria-Hungary, or a country in America?

as long as you are happy rping 1847 romania

Like do we need a PSA saying that the map is NOT being reset?

Antagarichh wrote:Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

What would you do, if a child was right in front of you?

Antagarichh, Valijun, and Diwi

Liberalina wrote:

We the people of the Commonwealth of Liberty, do hereby pass and promulgate this, the Time Switch Referendum Act of 2020,


Section 1. THE REFERENEDUM

    I. Noting that the options in the original poll were all extreme and no middle ground option was given, a referendum shall be held which will change the date of the timeswitch to APRIL 30TH based on a 60% threshold.

    II. If the referendum fails, then the original date of JUNE 15TH shall continue to be the date of the timeswitch


DEFINITIONS
COLONY: Conquered territory on another continent/not bordering the mother state.

Sponsored by : Liberalina

Co-sponsored by :
Format by the incredible The Shining Purple Light

Read dispatch

What do you guys think of this?

"V. Citizens will receive the land rights to the territory they owned in the current year if no one else owns the land rights. (Citizens will not receive land rights to colonies, this will be defined in a later section."

I got no complaints but its iffy

Here was the example:

If for example, someone is roleplaying Germany, they will retain rights to the entirety of Germany during the time switch even though it balkanizes due to border changes. However, Germany has the right to unify it through alternate history. [i]Additionally, if there is no Poland, Germany receives the land rights to the territory they owned in Poland during that time./i]"

Like is it even possible to define if something was a true part of the territory and not a colony?

Sounds good, plus it would justify me giving up the lands russia didnt own at the time

Bomoko, Valijun, Antillian, and Liberalina

Yarosluv wrote:Im pretty sure everyone is object to that except parts of Austria Hungary.

Because people wont lose land in the timeline.

What do you mean everyone will object?

Yarosluv wrote:What would you do, if a child was right in front of you?

Well a priest would rape it

Liberalina wrote:

We the people of the Commonwealth of Liberty, do hereby pass and promulgate this, the Time Switch Referendum Act of 2020,


Section 1. THE REFERENEDUM

    I. Noting that the options in the original poll were all extreme and no middle ground option was given, a referendum shall be held which will change the date of the timeswitch to APRIL 30TH based on a 60% threshold.

    II. If the referendum fails, then the original date of JUNE 15TH shall continue to be the date of the timeswitch


DEFINITIONS
COLONY: Conquered territory on another continent/not bordering the mother state.

Sponsored by : Liberalina

Co-sponsored by :
Format by the incredible The Shining Purple Light

Read dispatch

What do you guys think of this?

"V. Citizens will receive the land rights to the territory they owned in the current year if no one else owns the land rights. (Citizens will not receive land rights to colonies, this will be defined in a later section."

I got no complaints but its iffy

Here was the example:

If for example, someone is roleplaying Germany, they will retain rights to the entirety of Germany during the time switch even though it balkanizes due to border changes. However, Germany has the right to unify it through alternate history. Additionally, if there is no Poland, Germany receives the land rights to the territory they owned in Poland during that time."

Like is it even possible to define if something was a true part of the territory and not a colony?

I disagree with this point for a number of reasons..

Firstly, nations should not receive the “rights” to land (in addition to the land they currently own), simply because they owned it IRL. Not only is this unfair, especially given that most “important” spot players will remain in these spots, some with more land then they have IRL, but a bit OP (for lack of a better word) because they would also receive land which historically belonged to their nation.

Plus, this creates issues given that some nations own “land rights” to plots they don’t RP in, which they will keep post-switch, and gain more land because they owned it historically.

An Example of this being Russia, which owns more land today then it does IRL - and also has the land rights to Mongolia, who could potentially gain the majority of Eastern Europe as well, with the right to determine that land’s future if there are no players there.. especially since that land isn’t defined as a “colony”.

Another example is Para, who owns the US and Canada, who would take this ownership back in time - which creates an issue for the UK who would own the land historically, on top of the fact that there is supposedly somebody RPing there. The US would also, depending on the time period, receive overseas territory as well..

Yarosluv, The true islands, Liberalina, and Connomia

Nova kira

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Nonador wrote:I disagree with this point for a number of reasons..

Firstly, nations should not receive the “rights” to land (in addition to the land they currently own), simply because they owned it IRL. Not only is this unfair, especially given that most “important” spot players will remain in these spots, some with more land then they have IRL, but a bit OP (for lack of a better word) because they would also receive land which historically belonged to their nation.

Plus, this creates issues given that some nations own “land rights” to plots they don’t RP in, which they will keep post-switch, and gain more land because they owned it historically.

An Example of this being Russia, which owns more land today then it does IRL - and also has the land rights to Mongolia, who could potentially gain the majority of Eastern Europe as well, with the right to determine that land’s future if there are no players there.. especially since that land isn’t defined as a “colony”.

Another example is Para, who owns the US and Canada, who would take this ownership back in time - which creates an issue for the UK who would own the land historically, on top of the fact that there is supposedly somebody RPing there. The US would also, depending on the time period, receive overseas territory as well..

Well Canada is classified as a colony so this rule does not pertain to it,

Like honestly a part of me supports a full map reset and everyone has to choose new spots because a lot of the borders of today wont even be able to apply in 1847,

So Tyrol, for example, is an "integral part" of Austria

If we have no Italy, then he'd receive it.

But i get where your coming from, i might remove it: its something for a different bill maybe.

Nonador, Valijun, and Connomia

If i were to lose my land rights on some stuff ima vote no. People should be allowed to keep it.

Liberalina wrote:Like honestly a part of me supports a full map reset and everyone has to choose new spots because a lot of the borders of today wont even be able to apply in 1847,

Nonador

well well well, look what we have here

Liberalina

Yarosluv wrote:Nonador

well well well, look what we have here

Like if you were Russia, you get everything Russia owned in 1847
If you were Germany, you get everything it owned in 1847

excluding colonies of course

but literally how df is Germany gonna have post 1991 borders in 1847?

Nonador, Yarosluv, The true islands, Arcanda, and 2 othersAntagarichh, and Valijun

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