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New taiwen wrote:what's up

counter-question, what's down?

Rockemsockem wrote:counter-question, what's down?

no

New taiwen wrote:no

Hmm, fair enough.

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Rockemsockem wrote:counter-question, what's down?

Ground

The grand western empire wrote:Ground

the infinite void of space

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Katrzynija wrote:the infinite void of space

That would be true if you were upside down or doing a handstand

The grand western empire wrote:That would be true if you were upside down or doing a handstand

Then down would still be down though. Only your perspective changes.

Wubdich wrote:Then down would still be down though. Only your perspective changes.

What is down, anyways? We're in an infinite void of nothingness and space, directions have no meaning in the larger scale of the universe. There only is

True Europa State wrote:What is down, anyways? We're in an infinite void of nothingness and space, directions have no meaning in the larger scale of the universe. There only is

According to Cambridge Dictionary, either
"moving from above and onto a surface"
or
"in or towards a low or lower position, from a higher one"

Wubdich wrote:According to Cambridge Dictionary, either
"moving from above and onto a surface"
or
"in or towards a low or lower position, from a higher one"

Fair enough.

My point still stands from a philosophical perspective though.

True Europa State wrote:Fair enough.

My point still stands from a philosophical perspective though.

If we take things in greater scales, we will of course get to the point that common definitions and ideas do no longer apply like they do to a much smaller scale that is common to a person in their daily life. Directions mean of course nothing in an infinite, void space. But in a defined space, like a living room or just a box, they become meaningful again.
So trying to find the logical application of certain things on scales that don't work for it, is a task that will give you answers to your question. One can say the sun is hot because we know it is, since it heats up the Earth. If we ask what is hot on a universal scale, we simply don't know. Which is why scale to limit the question is always needed.

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Wubdich wrote:Then down would still be down though. Only your perspective changes.

But doesnt one's world also change with their perspective? So to the one doing a handstand up is down in their world.

Wubdich wrote:If we take things in greater scales, we will of course get to the point that common definitions and ideas do no longer apply like they do to a much smaller scale that is common to a person in their daily life. Directions mean of course nothing in an infinite, void space. But in a defined space, like a living room or just a box, they become meaningful again.
So trying to find the logical application of certain things on scales that don't work for it, is a task that will give you answers to your question. One can say the sun is hot because we know it is, since it heats up the Earth. If we ask what is hot on a universal scale, we simply don't know. Which is why scale to limit the question is always needed.

I suppose you win from the philosophical perspective too. You got a point.

The grand western empire wrote:But doesnt one's world also change with their perspective? So to the one doing a handstand up is down in their world.

No. Just because you make a handstand, the world isn't suddenly upside down as well on an objective level.
When you tilt your head away from your torso, you now look down, instead of up. Vise versa when you tilt it towards your chest.
What you see and perceive changes. But that's only in your perspective.
If you were to grab a hot kettle and burn your hand, it'd be very hot of course. With an ovenglove, it'd be not as hot to you anymore. But the kettle, objectively, is still hot.

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Comparing my life to a HOI4 focus, it would be this

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Wubdich wrote:No. Just because you make a handstand, the world isn't suddenly upside down as well on an objective level.
When you tilt your head away from your torso, you now look down, instead of up. Vise versa when you tilt it towards your chest.
What you see and perceive changes. But that's only in your perspective.
If you were to grab a hot kettle and burn your hand, it'd be very hot of course. With an ovenglove, it'd be not as hot to you anymore. But the kettle, objectively, is still hot.

A good argument.

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Alright, that is convenient. I can now use AI-generated images for my stories.

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Republic of Madovia wrote:Alright, that is convenient. I can now use AI-generated images for my stories.

AI-generated images are some of the most convenient things ever.

The grand western empire wrote:AI-generated images are some of the most convenient things ever.

Especially with the massive progress they've made in recent months. When I compare the pieces I let the AIs generate just a few months ago and the pieces generated today, I'm just stunned.

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Republic of Madovia wrote:Especially with the massive progress they've made in recent months. When I compare the pieces I let the AIs generate just a few months ago and the pieces generated today, I'm just stunned.

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