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Hey everyone... I'm new to this game, and this region looked nice. Any pointers?

Could anyone help me? I've no idea how this game works except for answering issues and factbooks.

Typica, Refuge Isle, Melenavenia, Araine, and 6 othersFloofybit, Junitaki-cho, Laisou, The most serene republicans, Kariforunia, and Marienborg

Marienborg wrote:Greetings all nations of Refugia.

Hi!!!

Inaros OPA wrote:Hey everyone... I'm new to this game, and this region looked nice. Any pointers?

Could anyone help me? I've no idea how this game works except for answering issues and factbooks.

I recommend joining the World Assembly, which is on the left side of the page on both mobile and PC. The World Assembly is kind of like NationStates' United Nations but it is its own thing. For example, once you join the World Assembly you can endorse fellow region members and get endorsed back. You can also vote on different issues in the World Assembly. In fact, we've been debating on one of those issues very recently on the Regional Messaging Board (RMB)! But, doing what you're doing now (asking questions and speaking up on a region's RMB) is a great way to get started and to get more involved in things.

Refuge Isle, Araine, Floofybit, Junitaki-cho, and 2 othersKariforunia, and Marienborg

The most serene republicans

Forest

Melenavenia wrote:You can also vote on different issues in the World Assembly. In fact, we've been debating on one of those issues very recently on the Regional Messaging Board (RMB)! But, doing what you're doing now (asking questions and speaking up on a region's RMB) is a great way to get started and to get more involved in things.

You can also just chat around on the RMB, and you can even chat on the RMB of regions other than your own if your region has an embassy on them. Like I'm doing right now.

Which brings me to: Hi Refugi, haven't been here in a bit! How are things going?

Uan aa Boa wrote:<words>

Oh hi, nice seeing you here, I had no clue you had a nation in Refugia

Welcome, The united social states of oceania, Marienborg, and Inaros OPA, to Refugia! I hope all three of you enjoy your stays. If it applies to you, please pay attention to the rest of this message.

Refugia aims to be a friendly, laid-back community, which is open to players of all skill levels. Nations who wish to become more active in the region, however, should consider joining the World Assembly (WA). WA nations are able to vote on international law, and receive exclusive benefits within the region, such as the ability to vote in regional polls and elections, get a spot on Refugia's map, and even run for office when elections come up! If you're interested in joining the WA, check out this article, and make sure to endorse our delegate.

If you'd rather just chill with us, that's perfectly fine as well. We have an offsite forum, as well as frequent discussions on the regional message board (RMB), which everyone is welcome to participate in!

If you have any additional questions about the region or how NationStates works, feel free to leave them here, on the RMB. If you're interested in joining our offsite forum, look for the link at the top of Refugia's World Factbook Entry (the big text box at the top of our regional page).

Once again, I really hope you enjoy your time here, and look forward to seeing more of you soon!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Floofybit, Junitaki-cho, and 4 othersPantala and pyrrhia, Kariforunia, Marienborg, and Inaros OPA

Inaros OPA wrote:Hey everyone... I'm new to this game, and this region looked nice. Any pointers?

Could anyone help me? I've no idea how this game works except for answering issues and factbooks.

Hello, and welcome! I'd recommend checking out our How Does dispatches. These are a series of tutorials on how to navigate the ins and outs of NationStates :)

*squawk*

drops some cookies

*squawk away*

Seagull wrote:*squawk*

drops some cookies

*squawk away*

*picks them up and runs off with them :3*

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, and 6 othersFloofybit, Junitaki-cho, The most serene republicans, Golden gateway, Kariforunia, and Shipping Fan

Seagull wrote:*squawk*

drops some cookies

*squawk away*

You're supposed to STEAL food not GIVE food.

Lower French Gregballs, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, Floofybit, and 4 othersJunitaki-cho, The most serene republicans, Golden gateway, and Kariforunia

Hi all,

I wanted to open the discussion early on Commend Kelssek. The proposal recognizes a player with a diverse set of contributions in the areas of GA authorship (and UN authorship, the international law making body that existed prior to the World Assembly but was dissolved due to the infamous cease and desist order), hosting and competition within NS Sports roleplays, and their contributions to the lawful government of Refugi embassy partner The East Pacific. On the whole, I am leaning towards a for recommendation as I believe there is substantial case for a Commendation. I do wish that the connections between clauses and broader narrative of the resolution had been built a little bit more, and I'm uncertain why so many different choppy clauses were used especially in transition areas.

Either way, I am open for Refugi input!

Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, Floofybit, and 4 othersJunitaki-cho, The most serene republicans, Golden gateway, and Kariforunia

Good morning. I have re-added the discord invite link to the WFE as a part of a radical and tyrannical reform.

Typica, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, Floofybit, and 5 othersJunitaki-cho, Chatula, Golden gateway, Pantala and pyrrhia, and Kariforunia

UwU tyranny

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, and 3 othersFloofybit, Laisou, and Kariforunia

Pantala and pyrrhia

Emojitheft wrote:UwU tyranny

Tywanney

Chacapoya, Typica, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, and 2 othersFloofybit, and Kariforunia

The more I think about it, I just become more skeptical of this proposal. I think the nominee is deserving but the writing is haphazard in some parts and generally lacks narrative and structure. It falls more than almost any other resolution for the "time to list some things" flaw, as it essentially consists of a list of UN/GA resolutions, a list of sports hostings and sports victories, and then a very very sloppy laundry list of every position they ever held in TEP. At no point does it create narrative and the TEP section in particular is sloppy, as positions do not equate to contributions.

I think we should recommend an against vote with a "go back, fix the writing, and try again" theme

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, and 4 othersJunitaki-cho, Kariforunia, Ciumbuleuit-bandung, and Lethedral

Emojitheft wrote:-snip-

Thank you for this. I've been pretty busy this week with papers, so I haven't been able to push myself to look at WA stuff, especially the SC.

Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, Junitaki-cho, and 1 otherKariforunia

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An’eth’ara, na lethall’en!

This is the official post for our regional map, from now until whatever unforeseeable end eventually becomes us. For as long as we inhabit our current corporeal forms, we can look upon the following set of images as proof that not only were we here in this time and place together, but that we did it while residing in large quantities. Refuge Isle has prepared for us three images of the map, which will automatically change when there are updates. These images show not only the state locations and names, but also culture groups and regional alliances or treaty groups!

Want to join this cool map club? If you're a Member State in Refugia (sign up for the world assembly, and also be in the region for at least a week), all you have to do is telegram the application form to Sylh Alanor. While map updates will happen monthly, they may happen more frequently if time allows for it. The most recent update is listed at the top of this dispatch and will be changed every time something is changed. Furthermore, updates will be posted in the RMB when they occur. If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to ask me over the RMB, telegram, or Discord. I will respond as soon as I am able.

As of January 17, 2024, we have a new Culture policy for the map. As cultures are shared, learned behaviours, we are requiring at least two nations be a part of any new culture before it will be added to the map.

Sule tael tasalal, dar'eth shiral.
Sylh Alanor



Refugia Map Application
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Telegram the following form to Sylh Alanor if you are a World Assembly member in the region:

Sylh Alanor wrote:Name:
Capital:
Culture Group:
Colour:
Desired Location on the Map:
Desired Location of Capital:
Size of Nation:


  • Nations may only apply for a placement on the map if they are a Member State.

  • Describe nation size as clearly as possible, including borders and map landmarks.

  • As cultures are shared, learned behaviours, we are requiring at least two nations be a part of any new culture before it will be added to the map.

  • Nation size will be considered relative to its time residing in the region, with some considerations made for nations with large populations. New nations will be expected to start small.

  • Nations that Cease to Exist will be removed from the map.

  • Nations may expand over time with growth.

  • Capital can be included even if your nation population hasn't unlocked that option yet.

  • Applications can only request existing landmasses. We will not raise new islands from the sea.

  • Colour can be listed as a description or hex code.


Source Files
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Do you want to customise the area of the map around your nation for a personal dispatch image? Occasionally we're asked to provide the source files for the map so people can tweak things for their own uses. Now it's easier than ever! Click the link below to get a file you can load into LinkAzgaar's Fantasy Map Generator. From there, you can utilise all the tools of the program we use to create the regional map!

Latest Map File:
Linkhttps://calref.ca/post/ns/map/Latest.map

Read factbook

I've pushed some updates to the regional map images just now. Namely adding Lunerbehrgm and Koayo.

I'm pretty dense sometimes, so if I've missed anything that's supposed to be on there, or I got a detail wrong, let me know.

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, and 5 othersMichelland, Junitaki-cho, Golden gateway, Kariforunia, and Koayo

Speaking of the map, would anyone be interested if I began to work on a Hearts of Iron 4 mod based off of it and our nations? Obviously, since it's a war game it wouldn't be representative our region but just a battle royale between us for fun.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, and 3 othersMichelland, Kariforunia, and Inaros OPA

Pantala and pyrrhia

Melenavenia wrote:Speaking of the map, would anyone be interested if I began to work on a Hearts of Iron 4 mod based off of it and our nations? Obviously, since it's a war game it wouldn't be representative our region but just a battle royale between us for fun.

That’d be cool! I only ever play that mlp mod on HOI4 anyway

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Elenaraghaenaris, and 3 othersAraine, Golden gateway, and Kariforunia

Pantala and pyrrhia wrote:That’d be cool! I only ever play that mlp mod on HOI4 anyway

I played that mod as a joke (because I'm not a brony) but ended up playing a full game of it and then ended up being conquered by the Changelings despite trying and succeeding to turn Equestria into a supremacy nation called the Solar Empire because I wanted to see if I could ally with the Changelings rather than be conquered by them.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Elenaraghaenaris, Araine, and 2 othersGolden gateway, and Kariforunia

Elenaraghaenaris

Melenavenia wrote:Speaking of the map, would anyone be interested if I began to work on a Hearts of Iron 4 mod based off of it and our nations? Obviously, since it's a war game it wouldn't be representative our region but just a battle royale between us for fun.

Omg, I'd love that. I wouldn't be able to play until June tho, exams suck );

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, and 2 othersKariforunia, and Parapollacis

In relation to the HOI4 mod:

Base game strength of nations would be based off population, influence, and for smaller/younger nations their military stats. I already know Refuge Isle should probably be similar to the USA in that it's a sleeping giant that's fairly weak in the beginning but will become an incredible powerhouse. Helps that it's on a big island.

Chacapoya, Sylh Alanor, Araine, and Kariforunia

Melenavenia wrote:Speaking of the map, would anyone be interested if I began to work on a Hearts of Iron 4 mod based off of it and our nations? Obviously, since it's a war game it wouldn't be representative our region but just a battle royale between us for fun.

I don't know how this would work, but it sounds neat and I'd be interested in seeing it :3

Melenavenia wrote:Speaking of the map, would anyone be interested if I began to work on a Hearts of Iron 4 mod based off of it and our nations? Obviously, since it's a war game it wouldn't be representative our region but just a battle royale between us for fun.

I think that would be a pretty neat idea and could be a lot of fun.

Pantala and pyrrhia wrote:That’d be cool! I only ever play that mlp mod on HOI4 anyway

I really like that mod, it's so well made.

Melenavenia wrote:Speaking of the map, would anyone be interested if I began to work on a Hearts of Iron 4 mod based off of it and our nations? Obviously, since it's a war game it wouldn't be representative our region but just a battle royale between us for fun.

That would be nice. I don't play HOI, but that would be legit.

Sorry to jump into the HOI discussion. Per the discussion earlier on the RMB, I have recommended a vote against the upcoming SC vote on "Commend Kelssek". The full Information for Voters can be found here:

Commend Kelssek
Information for Voters

Summary

Commend Kelssek seeks to recognize the nominee for their extensive contributions to General Assembly and United Nations resolution authorship, the lawful government of The East Pacific, and for participation in and hosting of NS Sports role playing events.

Analysis

The at-vote resolution does a good job demonstrating that Kelssek has a significant breadth of accomplishments that could likely be put into a well-written Commendation but does not itself craft a narrative or do explanation of how Kelssek's contributions are actually Commendable. More than almost any proposal in recent memory, Commend Kelssek reads a lot like a list of accomplishments, but worse than past proposals Commend Kelssek does not even seek to place the listed accomplishments in context.

This criticism is most poignant in the closing section of the proposal ("Accentuating" and "Saluting") about Kelssek's contributions to the lawful Concordat government of The East Pacific, with which Refugia shares an embassy. While it is likely that Kelssek did Commendable work in the list of roles provided in the resolution, none of this information or detail is provided by the text of the Commendation itself. The proposal leaves the reader wondering what role Kelssek played in framing the Concordat, what their legislative contributions were as Provost of the Magisterium, which issues they resolved successfully as an Arbiter in the Conclave, or which coups or regional crises they helped mediate as Vizier.

Other clauses of the proposal have similar flaws, although the extent is less so. At the very end of the proposal (in the "Noting" clause), the reader is left to wonder what the significance of mediating the Listonian conflict and the Krechzianko-Vladistock War was. The Recognizing clause lists UN and GA resolutions which Kelssek authored and provides a brief description but does not explain the broader significance of these specific resolutions, or even of GA and UN resolution authorship more broadly. The "Impressed", "Recalling", and "Celebrating" clauses note Kelssek's successes in different role played sporting events, but do not explain why high placement in sports events are a Commendable accomplishment. These clauses could be substantially reduced, or eliminated entirely, to make space for better explanation of other contributions.

The best writing within the proposal relates to the hosting of the World Cup and Olympic Games, where the "Affirming" and "Asserting" clauses do a good job explaining the international significance and prestige of each of these events. This is the kind of detail the author should impart upon other sections of the proposal. The author could free up space for this by consolidating some of the bullet pointed lists used in this section of the proposal and instead using lengthier full-sentence clauses.

Recommendation

While the text of the resolution demonstrates substantial research, it in general demonstrates sloppy narrative building in all sections except those about hosting the World Cup and Olympic Games. Accordingly, the Refugia Security Council Correspondent to the Councillor of WA Affairs recommends a vote against Commend Kelssek and encourages the authors to revise the resolution to provide greater narrative context for the nominees contributions before resubmitting.


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Chacapoya, Typica, Sylh Alanor, Araine, and 5 othersMichelland, Junitaki-cho, Kariforunia, Koayo, and Ciumbuleuit-bandung

Hello!

Sylh Alanor, Melenavenia, Araine, Junitaki-cho, and 5 othersLaisou, Liphia, Pantala and pyrrhia, Kariforunia, and Inaros OPA

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