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Gertyx wrote:

No. You are Psychotic Dictatorship

Yes i know i was just joking this is my new alt account

Ambaskow wrote:

He stopped responding… did I win? Or am I expecting a extra long paragraph explaining how I’m wrong?

Wait

Spaghettitopia wrote:

no i'm just eating breakfasrt

You know, it's already 20:00, and that sounds absurd to me. But I understand that the MSC is not one for the world.

Spaghettitopia wrote:

time zones

Yes

Ambaskow wrote:

Yes it is 8:00 PM here

Excuse me, out of curiosity, what country are you from? From Turkey?)

Gertyx wrote:

Excuse me, out of curiosity, what country are you from? From Turkey?)

I’m from Lebanon but I live in bareq Saudi Arabia.

(I’m not Lebanese, my mother is Syrian and my father is Libyan)

Ambaskow wrote:

I’m from Lebanon but I live in bareq Saudi Arabia.

(I’m not Lebanese, my mother is Syrian and my father is Libyan)

Understood, accepted.

Ambaskow wrote:

I live in Saudi Arabia, not from Saudi Arabia

Ай эм фром Раша

Alright ambaskow, here's the short paragraph. Say there's a person named Jenna. She was born male. Over her life, she felt trapped and unhappy in her body. Over the last few years, she has undergone 3 surgeries altering her voice, her genitals and her chest. She takes estrogen every day, and generally looks like a woman. The only difference she has is that she cannot reproduce. Everything else is "Womanlike". What makes her different from an infertile woman?

(also yes these things are possible)

Spaghettitopia wrote:

Alright ambaskow, here's the short paragraph. Say there's a person named Jenna. She was born male. Over her life, she felt trapped and unhappy in her body. Over the last few years, she has undergone 3 surgeries altering her voice, her genitals and her chest. She takes estrogen every day, and generally looks like a woman. The only difference she has is that she cannot reproduce. Everything else is "Womanlike". What makes her different from an infertile woman?

(also yes these things are possible)

he is different because an infertile women is actually a women biologically, he was born male, MAKING him biologically male. You cant just make yourself a gender just because you feel like it. At least not biologically. Here’s my situation, I’m human but I want to be a dog, if I undergo surgery to grow fur, teeth, and walk on fours, what makes me different from a giant dog?

Make sense?

Ambaskow wrote:

he is different because an infertile women is actually a women biologically, he was born male, MAKING him biologically male. You cant just make yourself a gender just because you feel like it. At least not biologically. Here’s my situation, I’m human but I want to be a dog, if I undergo surgery to grow fur, teeth, and walk on fours, what makes me different from a giant dog?

Make sense?

No, it doesn't. It's like the ship of theseus. If you gradually replace the parts of a boat until nothing of the original boat remains, is it still even the same boat? If it isn't, when did it stop being that boat?

Ambaskow wrote:

I never said I could stop it, nor would I stop, what I was saying is that if you change your gender you are still ur old gender. For example, if you are born male, you are still male. Scientifically you can’t change from something that’s already set. You can change as much as you want, and undergo all those surgeries, but in the end, you are still biologically a man. You may identify as something else but your still a man.

how are you still biologically a man??? Nothing of your original "manness" would be here anymore. Hormone therapy changed your behavior to more of a female. Surgery made it so you have breasts and different genitals. You have none of your masculine traits anymore.

Spaghettitopia wrote:

No, it doesn't. It's like the ship of theseus. If you gradually replace the parts of a boat until nothing of the original boat remains, is it still even the same boat? If it isn't, when did it stop being that boat?

No, that’s different, you still have pieces of the boat, but not the full boat. With genders it’s different. You may identify and look like something different, but biologically you are still whatever you were born as

Spaghettitopia wrote:

how are you still biologically a man??? Nothing of your original "manness" is here anymore.

Because what you were born as still stands, you can’t change your whole entire body and become women, you still have the same heart, vocal chords, chest, arms, etc. the only thing you change is appearance. Biologically your a man because you were born a man. It’s called body modification, it doesn’t change your entire body.

Uncilttakia wrote:

You’re a man biologically, I get it, but saying that out loud is very disrespectful and rude, you might not realize it.

I agree with you that you can’t change your biology, but saying that is very rude to people who feel like “girlsl”

Second, you can change peoples… uh… parts, with surgery, so you’re actually wrong

Wait so people can explain what they think and I can’t? I don’t have to agree with everything. I’m just saying what I think. I’m just explaining that biologically you can’t be female if your born male.