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People thinking NS is meant to be efficient lmfao.

It's meant to be fun, and having two chambers is more fun because it is inefficient.

Islonia, Indian genius, Marvinville, Rivogna, and 2 othersMardis, and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Purified hyperaurea

hello

Indian genius, The Islamic Country of Honour, Orsily, and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

To expand:
(1) Unicameralism will revolve along one chamber having 18-20 members depending on what we want (this is one of the unicameralism partisans' saying btw). This means
(a) More people to debate, so more likely more voices to be heard, and more time required for debate (as having an equal debate time to what the House/Senate have would not be enough)
(b) More people to vote, so more time needed on voting.
(c) The overall shows more time is required for everything, yet less time will be given to a bill/amendment than we would have if we had two chambers (because it circulates between them, and inbetween the debates and votes there also is inter chamber discussions and stuff talked with the citizens on discord)

(2) Unicameralism is one chamber, therefore you lose
(a) The double-checking two chambers offer. This is what allowed me and other citizens to fix/strike down laws that were horrible (NORB comes to mind as the biggest one).
(b) The divide of duties between chambers. Yes, the House and Senate have almost the same powers, but one confirming the Cabinet, the other confirming the Justices and both confirming the EC (again that idea of double-checking) is one such divide of duties that seem important. How would a unicameralist chamber with so many bills and stuff to go through also do cabinet confirmations, EC confirmations while it could also have midterms just like the House?
(c) This leads us to ask whether or not the unicameralist chamber should have midterms.
(d) Then there's the issue of doing one thing at a time, and the time limitations of debates and votes. If you have one chamber, you must be allowed to do several things at a time and have a longer debate time than 5 days (8 days with amendments).

(3) Having one big chamber isn't fun.
(a) As Cerdenia said, the unique dynamic of having two chambers is just better for what Thaecia aims to be.
(b) Do you really want to be a member of an unicameralist chamber after what I have said above? Being in a crowded, time-lacking, publicly-pressured to go fast, etc. body that one chamber would be?

In the end if you want an unicameral legislature, you'd need to:
(1) Have it the size of the actual House at max.
(2) Amend the procedures to allow longer and several debates and votes at once.
(3) Stop the public pressure to always do business fast.

And I would 100% be for that. That'd be more efficient yet also keep the quality of stuff proposed since more debate time means more people can get ahold of it, the legislators really take time to make their mind, and get more feedback from the citizens. Question is whether or not people would be ready to take such drastic changes in addition to the change in the legislature's shape.

Note: I am applying this reasoning to Thaecia, and only Thaecia. I personally prefer another type than bicameralism on NS (ie EIA's Senate), but ah.

Hulldom, Indian genius, The Islamic Country of Honour, Marvinville, and 2 othersSwedish-norwegian kingdoms, and Kindo

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Islonia wrote:
To expand:
(1) Unicameralism will revolve along one chamber having 18-20 members depending on what we want. This means
(a) More people to debate, so more likely more voices to be heard, and more time required for debate (as having an equal debate time to what the House/Senate have would not be enough)
(b) More people to vote, so more time needed on voting.
(c) The overall shows more time is required for everything, yet less time will be given to a bill/amendment than we would have if we had two chambers (because it circulates between them, and inbetween the debates and votes there also is inter chamber discussions and stuff talked with the citizens on discord)

(2) Unicameralism is one chamber, therefore you lose
(a) The double-checking two chambers offer. This is what allowed me and other citizens to fix/strike down laws that were horrible (NORB comes to mind as the biggest one).
(b) The divide of duties between chambers. Yes, the House and Senate have almost the same powers, but one confirming the Cabinet, the other confirming the Justices and both confirming the EC (again that idea of double-checking) is one such divide of duties that seem important. How would a unicameralist chamber with so many bills and stuff to go through also do cabinet confirmations, EC confirmations while it could also have midterms just like the House?
(c) This leads us to ask whether or not the unicameralist chamber should have midterms.

(3) Having one big chamber isn't fun.
(a) As Cerdeni said, the unique dynamic of having two chambers is just better for what Thaecia aims to be.
(b) Do you really want to be a member of an unicameralist chamber after what I have said above? Being in a crowded, time-lacking, publicly-pressured to go fast, etc. body that one chamber would be?

You've already made me change my mind and now youre making a 2 page essay about it lmao

Islonia and Indian genius

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms wrote:You've already made me change my mind and now youre making a 2 page essay about it lmao

It's just for everyone else. You're not the only one out here. :P

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Re: the poll.

No, not because I don't think it'll work or that it's a bad idea, no because I just don't have the time to really engage in RP.

Indian genius, Mardis, Swedish-norwegian kingdoms, and Kindo

Purified hyperaurea

hello

Indian genius

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Hulldom wrote:Re: the poll.

No, not because I don't think it'll work or that it's a bad idea, no because I just don't have the time to really engage in RP.

My only choice for me to rp in Thaecia is on site forums

- Almost all Offsite forums need emails
- I don't have discord

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms wrote:My only choice for me to rp in Thaecia is on site forums

-Almost all Offsite forums need emails
-I don't have discord

What about offsite forums ? Like the ones GCRs use.

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Islonia wrote:What about offsite forums ? Like the ones GCRs use.

why didn't you read all of the post

Islonia and Indian genius

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms wrote:My only choice for me to rp in Thaecia is on site forums

- Almost all Offsite forums need emails
- I don't have discord

This is the same for me too. Also, the fact that I can't spend all day on NS

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

And now I'm a 3x GA author :D

Pap sculgief, The Islamic Country of Honour, Rivogna, Swedish-norwegian kingdoms, and 2 othersKindo, and Armentieux

page=dispatch/id=1534016

Sorry for the double post, but FAM update! Hope you read and give an upzoot.

Indian genius and Armentieux

The thaecia times

Hello Thaecia, a new General Assembly proposal has been brought upon us!

Recommendation: AGAINST


General Assembly Resoulution


Resolution: "Long-term Storage of Produced Waste"
Recommendation: AGAINST

Reasoning
Acknowledging that the goals of this proposal is clear and reachable, it's method to seize said goals is another story. Although we approve that we need to change for the environment, regulating all businesses is not exactly the best way to enforce waste management and to strive for a cleaner, more environment-friendly world.

We recommend that you vote AGAINST "Long-term Storage of Produced Waste".



Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno!

Read dispatch

Indian genius and Armentieux

Hi Qurayya, Purified hyperaurea and Salvarlan welcome to Thaecia!

Welcome to Thaecia! I'm sure you'll have a great time with us here in NationStates, and the best way to do that is to get involved right away!

To make the most out of your time in Thaecia, you should join the World Assembly and endorse our President Brototh. If you need more information on how to join the WA or you want to apply for a position in the executive or even run for a seat in Congress, check out this Information Factbook. If you have time, feel free to read through the Education Ministry where you can learn things like history of Thaecia. You can also read through the Law Registry for an overview of our laws and government. You should also consider joining our Regional Discord Server: https://discord.gg/RYgzby8

But most importantly, have fun! Get chatting to your fellow Thaecians on the Regional Message Board (RMB) or Discord to get to know a few of us. You'll feel right at home in no time!

If you have any questions or concerns you'd like us to help you with, don't hesitate to telegram me Zon island or The Islamic Country of Honour. Also, check out our Roleplay, if you have any questions about roleplay, please telegram Islonia.

Indian genius

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms wrote:why didn't you read all of the post

I forgot to add the part where I say you can create throwaway emails if that's your issue.

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Islonia wrote:I forgot to add the part where I say you can create throwaway emails if that's your issue.

Oh thanks

But there's the confirmation stuff where you need to accept on an email message

Islonia and Indian genius

The great indian democracy

For or Against?

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

The great indian democracy wrote:For or Against?

Against, because Brototh is a dictator she would hide the true and better answer

Indian genius and The great indian democracy

The great indian democracy

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms wrote:Against, because Brototh is a dictator he would hide the true and better answer

lol

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

The great indian democracy wrote:lol

#BrotothIsADictator
#Dictatoth

Indian genius and The great indian democracy

The great indian democracy

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms wrote:#BrotothIsADictator
#Dictatoth

#Brotator

Indian genius and Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

thaecia is now top 5% in average deck value pogchamp

Indian genius

Swedish-norwegian kingdoms

Anyways good night Thaecia!

Indian genius, Primo order, Orsily, and The great indian democracy

I don't like offsite forums.

Indian genius and Orsily

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