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Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

Not so fast.
Gibraltarica must prove that they are Carolus Rex Francae, the original founder of Carolingia.

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Borduriaa wrote:Not so fast.
Gibraltarica must prove that they are Carolus Rex Francae, the original founder of Carolingia.

What sort of proof would be required of her?

Borduria6

Post by Borduria6 suppressed by Lanuensia.

The random thief wrote:What sort of proof would be required of her?

Let her login to the old nation and post here.

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Borduria6 wrote:Let her login to the old nation and post here.

I have personally notified her of this request. She is not online at the moment, as far I can tell, so we will have to wait.

Borduriaa

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

The random thief wrote:I have personally notified her of this request. She is not online at the moment, as far I can tell, so we will have to wait.

We will surely wait.
Emperor Phillipe Aristotle of Borduriaa has lost their extensive colonies but managed to retain Carolingia. We can be patient to sort this issue out.

Post by Gibraltarica suppressed by Borduria6.

Borduria6 wrote:Let her login to the old nation and post here.

That is impossible, as it was given to someone who has probably lost the password (alucard). I can try to poke her for it but no guarantees. Regardless, I do actually have proof.

I wrote this dispatch on CRF. page=dispatch/id=1021667

You’ll notice it has an image in it that has Odysseus as the nation logged in. Odysseus is my nation, as I can verify by DMing you.

This post also verifies my identity as “Vapid”.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=444367&p=34145268#p34145268

Anyone worth their salt in GP will tell you that I used to be called that.

You can also see this implied in a post here by this account from May 13, 2018
viewtopic.php?p=34013866#p34013866

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Gibraltarica wrote:This post also verifies my identity as “Vapid”.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=444367&p=34145268#p34145268

Gibraltarica was indeed known as Vapid. That is the name I knew her under originally, and I was also aware that she was Carolus Rex. The evidence that I was aware of this connection is in that same forum thread. Carolus states "This is Vapid" in the above linked comment, and the next comment is one by "Ridersyl", which is my former nation -

About This Nation

by The random thief

A puppet of Ridersyl, formerly used for Gameplay.

Dedicated to Extremity.

Read factbook

Connecting dots like this is more complicated than simply logging into the account, but without the password to the account, I feel that this is suitable.

Post by Borduria6 suppressed by Lanuensia.

Gibraltarica wrote:That is impossible, as it was given to someone who has probably lost the password (alucard). I can try to poke her for it but no guarantees. Regardless, I do actually have proof.

I wrote this dispatch on CRF. page=dispatch/id=1021667

You’ll notice it has an image in it that has Odysseus as the nation logged in. Odysseus is my nation, as I can verify by DMing you.

This post also verifies my identity as “Vapid”.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=444367&p=34145268#p34145268

Anyone worth their salt in GP will tell you that I used to be called that.

You can also see this implied in a post here by this account from May 13, 2018
viewtopic.php?p=34013866#p34013866

Interesting. Legally speaking, Carolus Rex Francae is the founding nation of Carolingia. Why would you give away the account of Carolux to somebody else?

Post by Gibraltarica suppressed by Borduria6.

Borduria6 wrote:Interesting. Legally speaking, Carolus Rex Francae is the founding nation of Carolingia. Why would you give away the account of Carolux to somebody else?

Because I left NationStates and entrusted them to continue the community, to put it succinctly. They did not choose to continue the community, to my disappointment on my return.

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Borduria6 wrote:Interesting. Legally speaking, Carolus Rex Francae is the founding nation of Carolingia.

Speaking plainly, Gibraltarica is Carolus Rex Francae. Retaining Carolingia as a colony through such a legal technicality would be quite malevolent.

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

So now?

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

Borduriaa

The random thief wrote:Speaking plainly, Gibraltarica is Carolus Rex Francae. Retaining Carolingia as a colony through such a legal technicality would be quite malevolent.

I am convinced Carolus Rex Francae is Vapid.
And Gibraltarica is Odyssey.
Nothing beyond that, sadly. I don't intend to use Carolingia as a colony though. After the destruction of Genua, I wished to retire from the game.

Post by Gibraltarica suppressed by Borduria6.

Borduriaa wrote:I am convinced Carolus Rex Francae is Vapid.
And Gibraltarica is Odyssey.
Nothing beyond that, sadly.

What part of the old dispatch I linked does not convince you thereof?

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Borduriaa wrote:I am convinced Carolus Rex Francae is Vapid.
And Gibraltarica is Odyssey.
Nothing beyond that, sadly.

If Gibraltarica was to log into the nation of Vapid and post here, would that suffice, then?

Borduriaa

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

Gibraltarica wrote:What part of the old dispatch I linked does not convince you thereof?

You tell me. There is no direct link between Gibraltarica and either Vapid or Carolus.
Anyway, what do you propose?

Post by Vapid vasentius suppressed by Borduria6.

Vapid vasentius

Actually, Syl, this was the nation I used. Not for when I was in DEN of course, that would be East Jesus Nowhere

The random thief

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

The random thief wrote:If Gibraltarica was to log into the nation of Vapid and post here, would that suffice, then?

Do that. It would help for transparency.

The random thief

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Borduriaa wrote:I am convinced Carolus Rex Francae is Vapid.
And Gibraltarica is Odyssey.
Nothing beyond that, sadly. I don't intend to use Carolingia as a colony though. After the destruction of Genua, I wished to retire from the game.

I myself retired not too long ago after a long time in Nationstates. I am only active here to assist my old friend. I can personally attest to the fact that retiring from NS is a good idea.

Borduria6

Post by Vapid vasentius suppressed by Borduria6.

Vapid vasentius

Borduriaa wrote:Do that. It would help for transparency.

You can see a history on this nation going back to 2016. I actually never used the nation Vapid, that was my skype nickname. However, after I came to be known by that moniker, I adopted this nation for one of my raiding nations.

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Vapid vasentius wrote:Actually, Syl, this was the nation I used. Not for when I was in DEN of course, that would be East Jesus Nowhere

I have intentionally blocked out the existence of the Vasentius family. :P

Post by Vapid vasentius suppressed by Borduria6.

Vapid vasentius

The random thief wrote:I have intentionally blocked out the existence of the Vasentius family. :P

Moderate traitor

Post by The random thief suppressed by Borduria6.

The random thief

Vapid vasentius wrote:Moderate traitor

no u

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

Vapid vasentius wrote:You can see a history on this nation going back to 2016. I actually never used the nation Vapid, that was my skype nickname. However, after I came to be known by that moniker, I adopted this nation for one of my raiding nations.

This is getting murkier.with each post.
So there is no Vapid after all. Vapid Vasentius.

Post by Vapid vasentius suppressed by Borduria6.

Vapid vasentius

Borduriaa wrote:This is getting murkier.with each post.
So there is no Vapid after all. Vapid Vasentius.

Are u unaware of the concept of nicknames? Also, syl doesn’t speak for me, no offense to her. I have the evidence here, she does not.

The random thief

Post by Borduriaa suppressed by Lanuensia.

Vapid vasentius wrote:Are u unaware of the concept of nicknames? Also, syl doesn’t speak for me, no offense to her. I have the evidence here, she does not.

Vapid did exist as a nation. A visit to the Boneyard says this:

Vapid (Former Nation)
Id: 3195263
Population: 110 million
Founded: 1 year 364 days ago
Ceased to exist: 1 year 335 days ago

Vapid (Ancient)
Id: 632584
Population: 107 million
Founded: 7 years 29 days ago
Ceased to exist: 7 years 1 day ago

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