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SC Recommendation Archive: Vote FOR 'Commend Roavin' | OWL


'Commend Roavin'

Background Information

Proposal title: 'Commend Roavin'
Author: Vippertooth33
Purpose: To honor Roavin's immense contributions to the South Pacific and The Order of the Grey Wardens, and the Defender community in general, with a shiny badge of commendation.


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The Office's Analysis

The at-vote resolution "Commend Roavin" seeks to award Roavin a badge of commendation, citing previous work for the Defender community and the South Pacific, including the development of many useful technologies. All those achievements listed in the proposal show the incredible talent and leadership Roavin has demonstrated throughout the years, and with this combination of contributions to the larger NationStates world and those that made TSP specifically a better place, OWL believes the nominee's worthiness of a commendation to be out of question. While the proposal itself is rather list-heavy, this in turn has it present a much larger quantity of information on the nominee than the average SC proposal, which was judged positively by OWL voters. Thus, OWL recommends a vote FOR the at-vote proposal, "Commend Roavin".

Supplementary Opinions


From TSP Citizens

Tepertopia is the Director of OWL and a Deputy Chair of the South Pacific.

Tepertopia wrote:Roavin has been doing an incredible job in TSP alone, and while many of their other achievements noted in the proposal predate my time in NS, I've still heard of Roavin's great leadership ‒ and I'm not even a person particularly involved in the R/D sphere, which makes the fact that that information trickled down even to me even more impressive. I also don't have anything to complain about regarding writing or formatting of the proposal, so full support from my side.

Concrete Slab is a legislator and member of the Coral Guard of the South Pacific.

Concrete Slab wrote:This proposal is a well-written and well-deserved commendation for a pillar of our community.

Aumeltopia is a Senior Staff member of OWL and a former Delegate of the South Pacific.

Aumeltopia wrote:A good commend for a great South Pacifican.

From the World

Eumaeus is a member of The Black Hawks. They posted the following on the NS forums:

Eumaeus wrote:Despite the length of my critique (which is mostly just a reflection of the proposal's length), this is a very well-written and well-argued proposal. The vast majority of the feedback that I have provided above are minor stylistic suggestions; even though there are a handful of actual grammar corrections, there aren't nearly enough to justify pulling the currently submitted proposal. Structurally, while this proposal does go ham with its use of lists, it does so in a well-executed manner that enhances what was already its greatest strength: it is extremely informative. While individual-clause resolutions tend to have an advantage in enhancing rhetoric and ability to argue one's case, list formatting gives the advantage of organizing large quantities of information that would be incomprehensible in the individual-clause format, making it well-suited to the extensive list of accomplishments prepared by the authors in this case.


From TSP Citizens

At the time of writing, OWL had not found a solid opinion against the resolution from TSP citizens. You can make your own opinion heard by posting it on the Regional Message Board of the WA Voting Center!

From the World

Junitaki-cho is the Councillor of World Assembly Affairs of Refugia. They posted the following on Refugia's RMB:

Junitaki-cho wrote:For tonight, brief thoughts on Commend Roavin:

- This is probably the poorest writing I've seen in an SC proposal that's made it to vote. It's nothing but lists, with no real order or thematic structure, no context, and no real sense for why the things they did are important. Much of the substance here is nigh on impossible to digest without significant backstory information. The lack of storytelling or sequencing made this a chore to read all the way through, and it weakens their arguments. In a laundry list of ways Roavin contributed to The South Pacific, they include writing a commendation of another TSP user for their contributions. That doesn't track to me.

- The "Applauding" clause lists a number of other users, but these are nicknames rather than actual nation names, and no effort is made to clarify who these people are. This should be illegal in the SC, but for now it's only illegal in our hearts.

- The "Extolling" clause uses the word "them" in a way that comes very close to violating the personal pronouns rule, in my opinion. I doubt it's actually a rules violation, but it's very shoddy editing that it made it in.

I can't really walk away from this understanding whether Roavin deserves a commendation or not. Certainly if he does, this is a lousy way to go about it, and I'm not inclined to support this piece of writing.